#46
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Çàìå÷àòåëüíî, òîãäà ðàññêàæèòå ìíå, ïîæàëóéñòà, 1 - îñîáåííîñòè ïðîâåäåíèÿ ñòðåññ òåñòîâ ó áîëüíûõ ñ îòñëîéêîé èíòèìû íåÿñíîãî ãåíåçà. Ëó÷øå, êîíå÷íî, ñ ïðèìåðàìè, êàê Âû ïèøåòå, "ñòàíäàðòîâ". Õîòåëîñü áû óçíàòü êàêèå îñëîæíåíèÿ ïðè íèõ áûâàþò è êàê ÷àñòî... Ñàì ÿ îïûòà ïðîâåäåíèÿ ñòðåññ òåñòîâ â ïîäîáíûõ ñëó÷àÿõ íå èìåþ. Ñ óâàæåíèåì ê Âàì.
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#47
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Âû ñåðäèòåñü. Èçâèíèòå.
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#48
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ß íå ñåðæóñü, ÿ ýòî Âàì îáúÿñíÿþ óæå íåñêîëüêî ïîñòîâ, ïîñìîòðèòå èõ, ÿ Âàì ãîâîðèë îá ýòîì, ïî÷åìó ÿ íå ìîã! Íå õîòèòå îòâå÷àòü, òîãäà ïîæàëóéñòà, 2- îòâåòüòå, ÷åì ìîæåò áûòü îáóñëîâëåíî ñíèæåíèå ïåðôóçèè ìèîêàðäà íà òàêèõ ñöèíòèãðàììàõ ïîñëå ïåðåíåñåííîãî èíôàðêòà ñ îñòàâøèìèñÿ ïðîõîäèìûìè êîðîíàðíûìè àðòåðèÿìè? Ýòî òî, ÷òî ó íàøåé ïàöèåíòêè ïî ìíåíèþ ñìîòðåâøèõ åå õèðóðãîâ! Âñåãäà âàø ÎÅÍ
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#49
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Åâãåíèé Íèêîëàåâè÷, ÿ äóìàþ, âû çíàåòå, ãäå íàõîäèòñÿ ïðîäîëæåíèå ðàçãîâîðà îá ýòîé ïàöèåíòêå. Î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî, äåéñòâèòåëüíî. ß íå ìîãó îòâåòèòü íà âàø âîïðîñ. Ìíå íå õâàòàåò èíôîðìàöèè. ß ïðîñòî ïðèâûêëà ê íåñêîëüêî äðóãèì ñïîñîáàì îöåíêè èøåìè÷åñêèõ èçìåíåíèé è æèçíåñïîñîáíîñòè ìèîêàðäà. Âîçìîæíî âàøè ñïîñîáû íå õóæå, íî ìíå íóæíî â íèõ íåìíîãî ðàçîáðàòüñÿ. ÎÊ? |
#50
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Öèòàòà:
Ñ óâàæåíèåì ÎÅÍ. |
#51
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Êàêèì îáðàçîì â òàêîì ñëó÷àå, íàðèìåð, èñêëþ÷èòü hybernating ìèîêàðä, èëè ïåðèèíôàðêòíóþ èøåìèþ? Ýòî âîïðîñ â öåëîì î ìåòîäå, à íå îá ýòîé ïàöèåíòêå.
Ïî÷åìó âàì îáèäíî çà äåëî, ìèëûé Åâãåíèé Íèêîëàåâè÷? Äåëî ó âàñ çàìå÷àòåëüíîå. Õîòÿ ÌÐÒ íàñòóïàåò, è î÷åíü ñòðåìèòåëüíî. Äîðîãîé Åâãåíèé Íèêîëàåâè÷, íàâåðíîå, ëó÷øå âåñòè áåñåäó â îäíîì âèðòóàëüíîì ìåñòå, òî åñòü òàì, à íå çäåñü. yananshs - ýòî login. |
#52
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Öèòàòà:
PS À ïî ïîâîäó íàñòóïëåíèÿ ÌÐÒ ÿ äàâíî óáåäèëñÿ, ÷òî ãëàâíîå íå "æåëåçêà" à òîò. êòî çà íåé ñèäèò |
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#53
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Íó ëàäíî, îáèæàòüñÿ íå áóäó.
Âû çàáàâíûé. Ìíå èíòåðåñíî ñ âàìè îáøàòüñÿ. Ðîäèòåëè ìåíÿ íàçâàëè ßíîé. yananshs - ýòî login. |
#54
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Öèòàòà:
Ýòè âîïðîñû ÿ çàäàâàë Âàì â òîì ÷èñëå è äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ñòàëè ïîíÿòíû ïðåèìóùåñòâà gated SPECT äàæå ïðè èññëåäîâàíèè òîëüêî â ïîêîå. Êîíå÷íî, äîïîëíåíèå òàêèì æå èññëåäîâàíèåì, íî âûïîëíåííûì óæå íà ôîíå ñòðåññ-òåñòà ïîçâîëÿåò ïîëó÷èòü äîïîëíèòòåëüíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î äèíàìèêå ðåãèîíàëüíîé ïåðôóçèè è ôóíêöèè, à òàêæå èçìåíåíèè îáúåìíûõ ïîêàçàòåëåé è ïîêàçàòåëåé äèàñòîëû. Êñòàòè, ìîæíî ñëåäóþùèé âîïðîñ? ×åì ïðèíöèïèàëüíî îòëè÷àþòñÿ ïîêàçàòåëè äèàñòîëû ðàññ÷èòàííûå ïî Äîïïëåðó îò ïîêàçàòåëåé äèàñòîëû ðàññ÷èòàííûõ ïî ðàäèîíóêëèäíûì ìåòîäàì - âåðíòðèêóëîãðàôèè è gated SPECT? Âñåãäà Âàø. |
#55
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Åâãåíèé Íèêîëàåâè÷, ÿ ïëîõî ó÷èëàñü â ìåäèöèíñêîì èíñòèòóòå. Êàðäèîëîãèþ âñþ ïðîãóëÿëà. Çíàåòå, ìîëîäîñòü, âåòåð â ãîëîâå. Âû ñîâåðøåííî ñïðàâåäëèâî ìíå îá ýòîì íàïîìíèëè.
ß âèæó, ÷òî âû óæå áåñåäóåòå îá ýòîé ïàöèåíòêå è î ìåòîäå ñ áîëåå ïîäêîâàííûìè äîêòîðàìè. Íå áóäó âàì ìåøàòü. |
#56
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Öèòàòà:
PS È, ïîæàëóéñòà, íèêîãäà íå íàãîâàðèâàéòå ñàìè íà ñåáÿ. Âñåãäà íàéäåòñÿ òîò, êòî ñäåëàåò ýòî çà Âàñ. Íî ìû åìó ýòîãî íå ïðîñòèì! |
#57
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Öèòàòà:
5. Comparison of Techniques There is now a substantial body of literature evaluating the ability of the various radionuclide techniques for predicting improvements in regional function, and the literature on this topic has been subject to meta-analysis. Recommendations are summarized in Table 17. Bax et al. (395) found that all of the radionuclide techniques (and dobutamine echocardiography) perform in a relatively similar manner regarding positive and negative predictive values for predicting improvements in regional function. Single photon radionuclide techniques (Tl-201 and sestamibi) appeared to be slightly more sensitive, whereas PET and dobutamine echocardiography appeared to be more specific. Overall the PET techniques appeared to have slightly better accuracy. This slight improvement in overall accuracy, however, is accompanied by less accessibility and a higher level of technical complexity and higher cost. A meta-analysis of outcome studies related to myocardial viability has demonstrated no difference between the techniques commonly used to assess viability (PET versus single-photon radionuclide versus dobutamine echocardiography) with regard to reduction of mortality or unfavorable cardiac events after revascularization (377)... Ïðàâäà, íàäî ñêàçàòü, ÷òî ó íàøåé áîëüíîé ñî ñòðåññ-ýõî ÷òî-òî íå ñâÿçàëîñü... Âñÿêî áûâàåò. À ïðî Gated-SPECT çäåñü òîæå åñòü. Íå òàê ìíîãî âíèìàíèÿ óäåëåíî, òàê òîãäà åùå ìåòîä íå òàê øèðîêî ïîëüçîâàëè. Ïðèøëîñü êðîìå ãàéäîâ è äðóãóþ ëèòåðàòóðó ïîñìîòðåòü. Óäà÷è Âàì â îáó÷åíèè! ×èòàéòå íà çäîðîâüå òàê ëþáèìûå Âàìè ãàéäû! |
#58
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Âû ýòî ñåðüåçíî, Åâãåíèé Íèêîëàåâè÷?
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#59
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#60
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Íó è ñëàâà áîãó.
À ìû òóò óæ áóäåì ïðîäîëæàòü äåëàòü ñöèíòèãðàììû êàê ìû ïðèâûêëè. Íå ñåðäèòåñü. Áóäó íàäåÿòüñÿ, ÷òî âñå ýòî íåäîðàçóìåíèå, è ìîé ïëîõîé ðóññêèé ÿçûê ïîñëóæèë ïðè÷èíîé âàøåãî ãíåâà è æåëàíèÿ ðàññêàçàòü, ÷òî îçíà÷àåò äåôåêò ïåðôóçèè íà ñöèíòèãðàììàõ ïîêîÿ. |