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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
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Ñòàðûé 02.05.2010, 11:31
Iamlovemylife Iamlovemylife âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
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Îñòðûé òðîìáîç

Çäðàâñòâóéòå, òðè ìåñÿöà íàçàä ìíå óäàëèëè ëåâóþ ïî÷êó. Äèàãíîç: îñòðûé òðîìáîç ëåâîé ïî÷å÷íîé âåíû, òàê êàê îíà áûëà çàæàòà ìåæäó âåðõíåé áðûæåå÷íîé àðòåðèåé è áðþøíîé àîðòîé. Òî åñòü ïðîáëåìà áûëà íå â ñîñóäàõ,íå â êðîâè, äà è ñ ïî÷êàìè íèêîãäà ïðîáëåì íå áûëî. Íåïîíÿòíî èç-çà ÷åãî ýòî ñëó÷èëîñü, àáñîëþòíî íà ðîâíîì ìåñòå. Ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, ÷òî ýòî íå îò ïåðåîõëàæäåíèÿ, íå îò èíôåêöèè, à ñîñóäû ïðîñòî âçÿëè áëèí è çàæàëè ïî÷å÷íóþ âåíó. Âðà÷è íå ìîãóò äàòü ìíå îòâåòà, ïîìîãèòå ïîæàëóéñòà.
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Ñòàðûé 02.05.2010, 14:29
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À ÷åì Âàì ìîæíî ïîìî÷ü?
Ýòî äîâîëüíî ðåäêèé, íî èçâåñòíûé ñèíäðîì ïîä íàçâàíèåì "ñèíäðîì Ùåëêóí÷èêà" (èëè â áîëåå ãðóáîì âàðèàíòå ïåðåâîäà - "ñèíäðîì ùèïöîâ äëÿ îðåõîâ"). Âîçíèêàåò èç-çà êîìïðåññèè ëåâîé ïî÷å÷íîé âåíû îáû÷íî ìåæäó àîðòîé è âåðõíåé áðûæåå÷íîé àðòåðèåé, â åãî ðàçâèòèè èãðàþò ðîëü âàðèàíòû àíàòîìè÷åñêîãî ñòðîåíèÿ (îòõîæäåíèÿ) àðòåðèé.
Ñóùåñòâóþò íåñêîëüêî ìåòîäîâ ëå÷åíèÿ, â ïîñëåäíåå âðåìÿ ïðåäïî÷òåíèå îòäàåòñÿ ñòåíòèðîâàíèþ, åñòü è äðóãèå âàðèàíòû õèðóðãè÷åñêîãî âìåøàòåëüñòâà, âêëþ÷àÿ àóòîòðàíñïëàíòàöèþ ïî÷êè.
Ñïðàâà òàêîãî ôåíîìåíà íå áûâàåò.

Èíôîðìàöèÿ â ñåòè:
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]

Ïóáëèêàöèè äëÿ ïðîôåññèîíàëîâ:
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
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Ñòàðûé 17.05.2010, 20:15
Àâàòàð äëÿ Vipamuk
Vipamuk Vipamuk âíå ôîðóìà
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Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Iamlovemylife Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Äèàãíîç: îñòðûé òðîìáîç ëåâîé ïî÷å÷íîé âåíû, òàê êàê îíà áûëà çàæàòà ìåæäó âåðõíåé áðûæåå÷íîé àðòåðèåé è áðþøíîé àîðòîé.
"Nutcracker syndrome" íå ìîæåò áûòü ïðè÷èíîé îñòðîãî òðîìáîçà ïî÷å÷íîé âåíû. Ïîýòîìó, åñëè îñòðûé òðîìáîç áûë äîñòîâåðíî, íåîáõîäèìî èñêàòü ôîíîâîå çàáîëåâàíèå,êîòîðîå è ÿâëÿåòñÿ èñòèíîé ïðè÷èíîé ñîñóäèñòîãî îñëîæíåíèÿ.
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Ñòàðûé 17.05.2010, 22:39
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Öèòàòà:
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"Nutcracker syndrome" íå ìîæåò áûòü ïðè÷èíîé îñòðîãî òðîìáîçà ïî÷å÷íîé âåíû. Ïîýòîìó, åñëè îñòðûé òðîìáîç áûë äîñòîâåðíî, íåîáõîäèìî èñêàòü ôîíîâîå çàáîëåâàíèå,êîòîðîå è ÿâëÿåòñÿ èñòèíîé ïðè÷èíîé ñîñóäèñòîãî îñëîæíåíèÿ.
Ò.å. Âû ïðåäïîëàãàåòå, ÷òî âî âðåìÿ îïåðàöèè õèðóðãè îøèáî÷íî ïðèíÿëè âåíîçíûé òðîìáîç çà ñèíäðîì Ùåëêóí÷èêà?
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Ñòàðûé 18.05.2010, 17:32
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Vipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ìîãó ïðåäïîëîæèòü, ÷òî åñëè îñòðûé òðîìáîç äåéñòâèòåëüíî áûë (â ÷åì ñîìíåâàòüñÿ íå èìåþ îñíîâàíèé), çíà÷èò íåîñëîæíåííîãî àîðòîìåçåíòåðèàëüíîãî “ïèíöåòà” c ôóíêöèîíàëüíûì (îðòîñòàòè÷åñêèì) ñòåíîçîì ïî÷. âåíû íå áûëî, à âåðîÿòíî, ê ìîìåíòó òðîìáîçà ïðîèçîøëà òðàíñôîðìàöèÿ àîðòîìåçåíòåðèàëüíîãî “ïèíöåòà” â àðòåðèàëüíî-ôèáðîçíîå êîëüöî ñ ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèì(ñòîéêèì) ñòåíîçîì ïî÷. âåíû. Îäíàêî, íàëè÷èå òîëüêî ìåñòíûõ ïàòîëîãè÷åñêèõ îòêëîíåíèé äëÿ ðàçâèòèÿ îñòðîãî òðîìáîçà ïî÷å÷íîé âåíû, ïî äàííûì ëèòåðàòóðû, íåäîñòàòî÷íî.


In adults, RVT is most commonly associated with nephrotic syndrome. ...........Other etiological factors include amyloidosis, oral contraceptives, steroids administration, and genetic procoagulant defects.[271] RVT can occur secondary to trauma (blunt, surgical),[272] neoplasms (hypernephroma, Wilms tumor), extrinsic compression (retroperitoneal tumors, pregnancy, lymphoma), arterial diagnostic puncture,[272] placement of central catheters,[273] and functional states of hypoperfusion such as congestive heart failure,[272] hypovolemia, a cause of RVT in neonates, has also been reported in adults.
(Barry M. Brenner. The Kidney, 8th ed. 2008)
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Ñòàðûé 18.05.2010, 20:09
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Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Vipamuk Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
n adults, RVT is most commonly associated with
nephrotic syndrome.
...........Other etiological factors include
amyloidosis,
oral contraceptives,
steroids administration, and
genetic procoagulant defects.[271]

RVT can occur secondary to
trauma (blunt, surgical),[272]
neoplasms (hypernephroma, Wilms tumor),
extrinsic compression (retroperitoneal tumors, pregnancy, lymphoma),
arterial diagnostic puncture,[272]
placement of central catheters,[273] and
functional states of hypoperfusion such as congestive heart failure,[272] hypovolemia, a cause of RVT in neonates, has also been reported in adults.
Âàøà òî÷êà çðåíèÿ ïîíÿòíà.
Òîëüêî äàâàéòå ïðåäñòàâèì âåðîÿòíîñòè êàæäîãî èç ïåðå÷èñëåííûõ ñîñòîÿíèé â ñèòóàöèè "Íåïîíÿòíî èç-çà ÷åãî ýòî ñëó÷èëîñü, àáñîëþòíî íà ðîâíîì ìåñòå" êîòîðûå îñòàëèñü íåäèàãíîñòèðîâàííûìè ïîñëå îïåðàòèâíîãî âìåøàòåëüñòâà?
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Ñòàðûé 18.05.2010, 23:40
Àâàòàð äëÿ Vipamuk
Vipamuk Vipamuk âíå ôîðóìà
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Vipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò LupusDoc Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Âàøà òî÷êà çðåíèÿ ïîíÿòíà.
Òîëüêî äàâàéòå ïðåäñòàâèì âåðîÿòíîñòè êàæäîãî èç ïåðå÷èñëåííûõ ñîñòîÿíèé â ñèòóàöèè "Íåïîíÿòíî èç-çà ÷åãî ýòî ñëó÷èëîñü, àáñîëþòíî íà ðîâíîì ìåñòå" êîòîðûå îñòàëèñü íåäèàãíîñòèðîâàííûìè ïîñëå îïåðàòèâíîãî âìåøàòåëüñòâà?
"Íåïîíÿòíî èç-çà ÷åãî ýòî ñëó÷èëîñü, àáñîëþòíî íà ðîâíîì ìåñòå" – ýòî äëÿ òîïèêñòàðòåðà. Íàâåðíÿêà èìåëî ìåñòî âàðèêîöåëå ñëåâà, ïîñëå îïåðàöèè ïî Èâàíèñåâè÷ó àîðòîìåçåíòåðèàëüíûé “ïèíöåò” ñîõðàíÿåòñÿ,à ïî÷å÷íàÿ âåííàÿ ãèïåðòåíçèÿ óñèëèâàåòñÿ(áåç äîñòàòî÷íîãî øóíòèðîâàíèÿ ïî âåíîçíûì êîëëàòåðàëÿì, åñòåñòâåííî), âîò âàì ÷åðåç .... ëåò è îñëîæíåíèå â ôîðìå ñòîéêîãî ñòåíîçà ïî÷å÷íîé âåíû. À äàëåå .....âïðî÷åì, êàê è ðàíåå – äåôèöèò èñõîäíîé èíôîðìàöèè. Ïîýòîìó, ÷òî ÿâèëîñü íà ôîíå ñòîéêîãî ñòåíîçà “ðàçðåøàþùèì ôàêòîðîì”, ïðîñòî íåèçâåñòíî.
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  #8  
Ñòàðûé 20.05.2010, 18:23
Àâàòàð äëÿ DoctorUro
DoctorUro DoctorUro âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 31.10.2009
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2,996
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 7
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 878 ðàç(à) çà 857 ñîîáùåíèé
DoctorUro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDoctorUro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDoctorUro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDoctorUro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDoctorUro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDoctorUro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDoctorUro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDoctorUro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDoctorUro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDoctorUro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDoctorUro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Vipamuk Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
"Íåïîíÿòíî èç-çà ÷åãî ýòî ñëó÷èëîñü, àáñîëþòíî íà ðîâíîì ìåñòå" – ýòî äëÿ òîïèêñòàðòåðà. Íàâåðíÿêà èìåëî ìåñòî âàðèêîöåëå ñëåâà, ïîñëå îïåðàöèè ïî Èâàíèñåâè÷ó
â ïðîôèëå òîïèêñòàðòåðà óêàçàí æåíñêèé ïîë.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 20.05.2010, 20:02
Àâàòàð äëÿ Vipamuk
Vipamuk Vipamuk âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 30.03.2009
Ãîðîä: Ýíãåëüñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1,020
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 4
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 401 ðàç(à) çà 394 ñîîáùåíèé
Vipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVipamuk ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Äà..., êîòîðûé ðàç óáåæäàåøñÿ â íåîáõîäèìîñòè ñëåäîâàòü ïðàâèëàì.  òàêîì ñëó÷àå ÷àñòü "ëåãåíäû" áóäåò çâó÷àòü òàê: "..... Íàâåðíÿêà èìåëî ìåñòî îâàðèêîâàðèêîöåëå ñëåâà, à ÷åðåç .... ëåò - îñëîæíåíèå â ôîðìå ñòîéêîãî ñòåíîçà ïî÷å÷íîé âåíû." ......
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