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Ôîðóì äëÿ îáùåíèÿ âðà÷åé íåâðîëîãîâ è íåéðîõèðóðãîâ Ôîðóì ïðåäíàçíà÷åí äëÿ îáùåíèÿ âðà÷åé ìåæäó ñîáîé.

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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
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Ñòàðûé 14.01.2007, 22:02
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Êàêèìè äîïîëíèòåëüíûìè ìåòîäàìè èññëåäîâàíèÿ ìîæíî ïîäòâåðäèòü öåðåáðàëüíûé àðàõíîèäèò?
Çàðàíåå âñåì ñïàñèáî.
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Ñòàðûé 15.01.2007, 21:15
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×òî Âàñ áåñïîêîèò? Ïðî÷òèòå òåìó "Ïðàâèëà ïóáëèêàöèè" â íåâðîëîãèè.
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Ñòàðûé 16.01.2007, 08:58
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Ñïàñèáî ÷òî îòêëèêíóëèñü! Ìåíÿ íè÷åãî íå áåñïîêîèò, ÿ âðà÷-íåâðîëîã ðàéîííîé ïîëèêëèíèêè èùó èíôîðìàöèþ ïî äàííîìó âîïðîñó. Åñëè ó Âàñ òàêîâàÿ èìååòñÿ, ïðîøó ïîäåëèòüñÿ.
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Ñòàðûé 16.01.2007, 17:19
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Ñîîáùåíèå îò HelB27
Ñïàñèáî ÷òî îòêëèêíóëèñü! Ìåíÿ íè÷åãî íå áåñïîêîèò, ÿ âðà÷-íåâðîëîã ðàéîííîé ïîëèêëèíèêè èùó èíôîðìàöèþ ïî äàííîìó âîïðîñó. Åñëè ó Âàñ òàêîâàÿ èìååòñÿ, ïðîøó ïîäåëèòüñÿ.
Çàðàíåå áëàãîäàðþ.
Äà, è ìåíÿ çàíèìàåò ýòîò âîïðîñ. Ñåé÷àñ ÿ çàìåíÿþ âðà÷à â äíåâíîì ñòàöèîíàðå ïîëèêëèíèêè, åæåäíåâíî âèæó ïàöèåíòîâ íàïðàâëåííûõ íåâðîëîãàìè íà êàïåëüíèöû ñ êàâèíòîíîì ïî ïîâîäó àðàõíîèäèòîâ. Ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî ýòî ïñåâäîäèàãíîç òèïà ÂÑÄ, ÄÝÏ è ò.ä.
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Ñòàðûé 16.01.2007, 20:08
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Êîëëåãè ,âîò ññûëêà , äîñòóïíî íàïèñàíî
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Ñòàðûé 16.01.2007, 22:07
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Êîëëåãè ,âîò ññûëêà , äîñòóïíî íàïèñàíî
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
Ñ óâàæåíèåì Ñ.Ìîñòîâîé
Ñïàñèáî!
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Ñòàðûé 16.01.2007, 22:27
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Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Mostovoy
Êîëëåãè ,âîò ññûëêà , äîñòóïíî íàïèñàíî
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
Ñ óâàæåíèåì Ñ.Ìîñòîâîé
Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ýòà ñòàòüÿ äëÿ ìåíÿ êàðòèíó íå ïðîÿñíèëà.
 âûøåïðèâåäåííîé ñòàòüå íå óêàçàíû ÷åòêèå êðèòåðèè äèàãíîñòèêè è äèôôåðåíöèàëüíîé äèàãíîñòèêè ýòîãî ñîñòîÿíèÿ. Óêàçàííûå ïðèçíàêè ìîãóò âñòðå÷àòüñÿ ïðè øèðî÷àéøåì ñïåêòðå çàáîëåâàíèé îò íåéðîäåãåíåðàòèâíûõ äî ïðîñòîé ìèãðåíè. ß òàê ïîíÿë êëþ÷åâîå çíà÷åíèå, èìåþò ïðèçíàêè, âûÿâëåííûå ïðè íåéðîâèçóàëèçàöèè. Íî, îöåíêà òîìîãðàìì î÷åíü ñóáúåêòèâíà. Íåïîíÿòíî, êàê êîððåëèðóþò ïðèçíàêè àðàõíîèäèòà íà ÌÐÒ è àóòîïñèè. Êàê âîîáùå áûëà äîêàçàíà âîçìîæíîñòü àóòîèììóííîãî ïðîöåññà â ìîçãîâûõ îáîëî÷êàõ. Ïî÷åìó íåò ñïåöèôè÷åñêèõ àóòîàíòèòåë, êàê êðèòåðèÿ äèàãíîçà.
Åñëè ýòî àóòîèììóííûé ñïàå÷íûé ïðîöåññ, òî ìíå íåïîíÿòíî ìåñòî íîîòðîïîâ è ñîñóäèñòûõ ïðåïàðàòîâ â ëå÷åíèè ýòîãî çàáîëåâàíèÿ. Íåò ññûëîê íà èññëåäîâàíèÿ ïîäòâåðæäàþùèå ýôôåêòèâíîñòü ðåêîìåíäîâàííîãî ëå÷åíèÿ ïðè àðàõíîèäèòå. Ìíå íåïîíÿòíî ïî÷åìó ñòîëü ÷àñòîå çàáîëåâàíèå (3-5% ñðåäè îðãàíè÷åñêèõ çàáîëåâàíèé íåðâíîé ñèñòåìû), íåèçâåñòíî â ðàçâèòûõ ñòðàíàõ.

 àíãëîÿçû÷íîé ëèòåðàòóðå íå íàøåë îïèñàíèÿ àðàõíîèäèòà ãîëîâíîãî ìîçãà, êàê ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíîé íîçîëîãè÷åñêîé åäèíèöû.
Åñòü äàííûå ïî àðàõíîèäèòó ñïèííîãî ìîçãà. Ïîëèñòàë ñëåäóþùèå ñòàòüè:
1. Symptomatic lumbar spinal arachnoiditis: fact or fallacy? Journal of Clinical Neuroscience (2000) 7(5), 395–399
2. A comprehensive review of spinal arachnoiditis. By Wright MH, Orthopaedic Nursing / National Association Of Orthopaedic Nurses [Orthop Nurs], 2003 May-Jun; Vol. 22 (3), pp. 215-9;
3. Neurologic deficits and arachnoiditis following
neuroaxial anesthesia. Acta Anaesthesiol Scand 2003; 47: 3–12

Ñäåëàë âûâîä.  êàïèòàëèñòè÷åñêèõ ñòðàíàõ ïîä ñïèíàëüíûì àðàõíîèäèòîì ïîíèìàþò øèðîêèé ñïåêòð âîñïàëèòåëüíûõ è ðóáöîâûõ èçìåíåíèé â ñïèííîìîçãîâûõ îáîëî÷êàõ. ×åòêèõ äèàãíîñòè÷åñêèõ êðèòåðèåâ íåò. Ïîíÿòèÿ îá óíèâåðñàëüíîé àóòîèììóííîé ïðèðîäå òîæå íåò. Ëå÷åíèå ñèìïòîìàòè÷åñêîå, õèðóðãè÷åñêîå, ïðè èíôåêöèîííîì àðàõíîèäèòå ýòèîòðîïíîå.

Öèòàòà èç ïåðâîãî èñòî÷íèêà:
1. Arachnoiditis is a clearly defined pathological entity.
2. Arachnoiditis is a clearly defined radiological entity.
3. Arachnoiditis is NOT a clearly defined clinical entity.
4. Lumbar disc prolapse may be associated with the
pathological and radiological changes of arachnoiditis
locally.
5. Lumbar myelography may be followed by the pathological
and radiological changes of arachnoiditis.
6. The pathological and radiological changes of arachnoiditis
may be present in the absence of symptoms.
7. Cervical myelography is rarely if ever followed by clinical
arachnoiditis.
8. Myodil ventriculography has never been shown to be followed
by clinical arachnoiditis.
9. Virtually all patients with the diagnosis of lumbar arachnoiditis
have several other problems in their lumbar region, and one or
more of these problems are usually sufficient to explain their
symptoms.
10.A minority of patients with the diagnosis of arachnoiditis may
have their symptoms relieved by surgical decompression of
nerve roots, suggesting a mechanical cause for the symptoms
in those patients.
.........................

The intellectual basis for making the
correlation between the clinical and the radiological syndromes is
syllogistic, of the form:
– My patient has back pain and radiological arachnoiditis
– Back pain has been associated with clinical arachnoiditis
– Therefore, my patient’s back pain must be caused by clinical
arachnoiditis.

Which is as logical as:
– All dogs have four legs
– My cat has four legs
– Therefore, my cat is a dog.
The ancient Greek philosophers would turn in their urns!



ÈÌÕÎ: Ðàñïëûâ÷àòîå òóìàííîå îïèñàíèå àðàõíîèäèòà è åãî áðàòà èíôåêöèîííî-àëëåðãè÷åñêîãî ýíöåôàëèòà, ïîçâîëèëè ñäåëàòü ýòè äèàãíîçû â îòå÷åñòâåííîé íåâðîëîãèè ñòî÷íîé êàíàâîé, ïðèìåíÿåìîé íàðàâíå ñ ÄÝÏîì è ÂÑÄ.

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
Aladdyn îäîáðèë(à): Ëîãè÷åñêèå ïîñòðîåíèÿ - ýòî çäîðîâî! Ïðèëåïèòü ÊÑÀ ìîæíî êàæäîìó âòîðîìó áîëüíîìó ñ ãîëîâíîé áîëüþ, ïðè æåëàíèè.
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Îïðåäåëåíèå â emedicine:

Arachnoiditis is a broad term denoting inflammation of the meninges and subarachnoid space. A variety of etiologies exist, including infectious, inflammatory, and neoplastic processes.

Infectious etiologies include bacterial, viral, fungal, and parasitic agents. Noninfectious inflammatory processes include surgery, intrathecal hemorrhage, and the administration of intrathecal agents such as myelographic contrast media, anesthetics, and steroids.

Neoplasia includes the hematogenous spread of systemic tumors, such as breast and lung carcinoma, melanoma, and non-Hodgkin lymphoma. Neoplasia also includes direct seeding of the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) from primary central nervous system (CNS) tumors such as glioblastoma multiforme, medulloblastoma, ependymoma, and choroid plexus carcinoma.

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  #9  
Ñòàðûé 17.01.2007, 14:14
Baul Baul âíå ôîðóìà
Êàíäèäàò â âåòåðàíû ôîðóìà
      
 
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Baul ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBaul ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBaul ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBaul ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBaul ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBaul ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBaul ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBaul ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBaul ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBaul ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBaul ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
ß äóìàþ, ÷òî äèàãíîçó "àðàõíîèäèò" íå ìåñòî â øèðîêîé íåâðîëîãè÷åñêîé ïðàêòèêå. Îñîáåííî åñëè îòñóòñòâóþò óñëîâèÿ äëÿ íåéðîâèçóàëèçàöèè.
 ñâîå âðåìÿ, íàðÿäó ñ äèàãíîçîì "ëåïòîìåíèíãèò", îí ÷àñòåíüêî âñòðå÷àëñÿ.
Ïî ñóòè, ïðè òåêóùåì âîñïàëåíèè ìîçãîâûõ îáîëî÷åê íàçíà÷åíèå âàçîàêòèâíûõ ïðåïàðàòîâ, òàêèõ êàê êàâèíòîí âåñüìà íåæåëàòåëüíî è äàæå ïðîòèâîïîêàçàíî. Çäåñü îíè óæå äàëåêî íå ïóñòûøêè. Îäíàêî ó÷èòûâàÿ, ÷òî ïðè âñåõ ýòèõ ïñåâäîàðàõíîèäèòàõ ìàññèðîâàííûå êóðñû ñîñóäèñòûõ ïðåïàðàòîâ íå äàâàëè óõóäøåíèÿ (îò÷åãî ýòî ñòàëî ïðàêòèêîâàòüñÿ è äàëüøå), òî äåëàåì êîñâåííûé âûâîä, ÷òî àðàõíîèäèòàìè òàì è íå ïàõëî.

ÈÌÕÎ íà ñåãîäíÿøíèé äåíü, åñëè âîçíèêëî îáîñíîâàííîå ïîäîçðåíèå íà íåñïåöèôè÷åñêîå âîñïàëåíèå ìÿãêèõ ìîçãîâûõ îáîëî÷åê, òî ýòî ïîêàçàíèå äëÿ ïðîâåäåíèÿ ÌÐÒ.
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Ñòàðûé 23.12.2007, 01:56
olga_kr olga_kr âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
Ñåðôåð
 
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Äèàãíîç - àðàõíîèäèò

Íåâðîëîã ïðåäïîëîæèë, ÷òî ó ñûíà - àðàõíîèäèò è íàçíà÷ìë ëå÷åíèå. Ïîñîâåòóéòå ñïåöèàëèñòà, êòî áû ìîã ïðîêîíñóëüòèðîâàòü ïî ïîâîäó àðàõíîèäèòà (Ìîñêâà).
Ñïàñèáî!
  #11  
Ñòàðûé 23.12.2007, 02:18
EVP EVP âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 08.07.2004
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 7,190
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 992 ðàç(à) çà 975 ñîîáùåíèé
EVP ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåEVP ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåEVP ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåEVP ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåEVP ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåEVP ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåEVP ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåEVP ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåEVP ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåEVP ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåEVP ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
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