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Ôîðóì äëÿ îáùåíèÿ âðà÷åé íåâðîëîãîâ è íåéðîõèðóðãîâ Ôîðóì ïðåäíàçíà÷åí äëÿ îáùåíèÿ âðà÷åé ìåæäó ñîáîé.

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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
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Àâàòàð äëÿ Ophthalmist
Ophthalmist Ophthalmist âíå ôîðóìà
Âðà÷-îôòàëüìîëîã
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 25.11.2010
Ãîðîä: Åâðîïà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2,064
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 88
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 505 ðàç(à) çà 473 ñîîáùåíèé
Ophthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ìèîçèò?

Òîâàðèùè íåâðîëîãè, åñëè ìîæíî - äàéòå ïàðó ñîâåòîâ.

Ïàöèåíòêà ëåò 25. 2 äíÿ íàçàä ïîÿâèëèñü æàëîáû íà áîëü "â ãëóáèíå ãëàçíèöû" ïðè âçãëÿäå ââåðõ, è îñîáåííî ââåðõ-âëåâî. Íå ìîæåò îïðåäåëèòüñÿ, êàêàÿ èç ãëàçíèö áîëèò (ñðàâíèâàåò ýòó áîëü ñ ìûøå÷íîé áîëüþ îò òðåíèðîâîê).

Ãëàçíîé ñòàòóñ ñîâñåì-ñîâñåì íå ïðèìå÷àòåëåí. Ïåðåäíèé îòðåçîê ãëàçà è ãëàçíîå äíî áåç îñîáåííîñòåé. Îñòðîòà çðåíèÿ â íîðìå.

Ãäå-òî äíÿ 2-3 íàçàä, êðîìå òîãî, îáúåëàñü ìàíäàðèíîâ è îòìåòèëà ñûïü àëëåðãè÷åñêóþ íà ëáó è åäèíè÷íûå ïÿòíà íà ù¸êàõ (ÿ ýòó ñûïü âèäåë). Ãîâîðèò, ÷òî ýòî îáû÷íîå äëÿ íå¸ äåëî, êîãäà ïîåñò ìàíäàðèíîê.

Âîïðîñû ñëåäóþùèå: òðåáóåòñÿ ëè êîíñóëüòàöèÿ íåâðîëîãà? Òðåáóþòñÿ ëè âèçóàëèçèðóþùèå èññëåäîâàíèÿ ãëàçíèöû (ÌÐÒ? ÊÒ? ÓÇÈ?)? Êîãäà èìååò ñìûñë ÷òî-ëèáî âûïîëíÿòü? (Ñðîêè).
Ñîáñòâåííî - ÷òî ïîäîçðåâàòü? Ìèîçèò? Îí áûâàåò àëëåðãè÷åñêîé ïðèðîäû?

Íó, â îáùåì - âîïðîñîâ ìíîãî, áîëüøèíñòâî èç íèõ ñêîðåå âñåãî áàíàëüíûå.

Ñïàñèáî.
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Àâàòàð äëÿ lizaliza
lizaliza lizaliza âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 13.05.2011
Ãîðîä: Êðàñíîäàð
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1,246
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 7
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 366 ðàç(à) çà 364 ñîîáùåíèé
lizaliza ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìålizaliza ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìålizaliza ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìålizaliza ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìålizaliza ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìålizaliza ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïðàâèëüíî ëè ÿ ïîíÿëà, ÷òî êðîìå áîëåâûõ îùóùåíèé ïàöèåíòêó íè÷åãî íå áåñïîêîèò è ïðè îñìîòðå íåò ýêçîôòàëüìà, èíúåêöèè ñêëåð, õåìîçà, îãðàíè÷åíèÿ äâèæåíèÿ ãëàçíûõ ÿáëîê?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 15.04.2013, 22:02
Àâàòàð äëÿ Ophthalmist
Ophthalmist Ophthalmist âíå ôîðóìà
Âðà÷-îôòàëüìîëîã
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 25.11.2010
Ãîðîä: Åâðîïà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2,064
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 88
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 505 ðàç(à) çà 473 ñîîáùåíèé
Ophthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Òàê òî÷íî, êðîìå áîëåé ïðè äâèæåíèè ãëàç - íèêàêèõ ïðèçíàêîâ íåáëàãîïîëó÷èÿ. Åñòü âàðèàíò - æäàòü... è ïîñåòèòü íåâðîëîãà ÷åðåç 2-3 äíÿ, åñëè íå ïðîèçîéä¸ò óëó÷øåíèÿ. Èëè...?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 15.04.2013, 22:53
Alex_Rogozhin Alex_Rogozhin âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 03.11.2007
Ãîðîä: Êàçàíü
Ñîîáùåíèé: 115
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 11
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 30 ðàç(à) çà 30 ñîîáùåíèé
Alex_Rogozhin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò îòëè÷íóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Eñëè ðàññìàòðèâàòü âîçìîæíûå ðàðèòåòû, òî ìîæåò áûòü ýòî îêóëÿðíûé ìèîçèò? [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
Ñûïü íà ëèöå âìåñòå ñ ìûøå÷íîé áîëüþ òàêæå ìîæåò óêàçûâàòü íà äåðìàòîìèîçèò. Êàê ÿ ïîíèìàþ îêóëÿðíûé ìèîçèò íå ÿâëÿåòñÿ ôîðìîé äåðìàòîìèîçèòà, õîòÿ ãäå-òî (â ïîïóëÿðíûõ ðàçäåëàõ èíòåðíåòà) âèäåë, ÷òî ïèøóò âîçìîæíî è òàêîå.

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
Ophthalmist îäîáðèë(à):
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 15.04.2013, 22:58
Àâàòàð äëÿ lizaliza
lizaliza lizaliza âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 13.05.2011
Ãîðîä: Êðàñíîäàð
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1,246
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 7
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 366 ðàç(à) çà 364 ñîîáùåíèé
lizaliza ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìålizaliza ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìålizaliza ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìålizaliza ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìålizaliza ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìålizaliza ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
ß áû ïîíàáëþäàëà â òå÷åíèå íåñêîëüêèõ äíåé. Ïðè îòñóòñòâèè ïîëîæèòåëüíîé äèíàìèêè - âèçóàëèçàöèÿ îðáèò.
À ÷òî ó íåå ñ ùèòîâèäíîé æåëåçîé? ÒÒÃ íå ñïðàøèâàëè?

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
Ophthalmist îäîáðèë(à): Ïîäîæä¸ì.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 15.04.2013, 23:11
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,852
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,441 ðàç(à) çà 31,784 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïî àíàìíåçó ïîõîæ íà ìèîçèò:

Orbital myositis is an inflammatory process that primarily involves the extraocular muscles and most commonly affects young adults in the third decade of life, with a female predilection.

ïî ñèìïòîìàòèêå - íå î÷åíü: Clinical characteristics of orbital myositis include orbital and periorbital pain, ocular movement impairment, diplopia, proptosis, swollen eyelids, and conjunctival hyperemia. The most common presentation is acute and unilateral, which initially responds to systemic corticosteroid therapy.
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Curr Allergy Asthma Rep. 2009 Jul;9(4):316-23.
Orbital myositis: diagnosis and management.

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Ophthalmist îäîáðèë(à): êëèíèêà ëåâîâàòà...
nebel îäîáðèë(à):
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Èñêðåííå,
Âàäèì Âàëåðüåâè÷.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 15.04.2013, 23:30
Àâàòàð äëÿ Ophthalmist
Ophthalmist Ophthalmist âíå ôîðóìà
Âðà÷-îôòàëüìîëîã
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 25.11.2010
Ãîðîä: Åâðîïà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2,064
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 88
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 505 ðàç(à) çà 473 ñîîáùåíèé
Ophthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåOphthalmist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âû ìíå ñêàæèòå, ýòî âàøå èëè íàøå?))

ß ñîáñòâåííî ïîäðàçóìåâàë "îêóëÿðíûé"/"îðáèòàëüíûé" ìèîçèò, äà, òîëüêî âîïðîñ - ýòî ãëàçíîå èëè íåâðîëîãè÷åñêîå? Êîìó ëå÷èòü-òî?)

Ñïðàøèâàë ïðî ùèòîâèäíóþ æåëåçó - îíà íå â êóðñå, íèêîãäà íè÷åãî íå áåñïîêîèëî, ê ýíäîêðèíîëîãó íå îáðàùàëàñü. Ó ðîäèòåëåé â ýòîì ïëàíå òîæå âñ¸ õîðîøî.

È, ÷òî ñîáñòâåííî è íàïðÿãëî - íåò íè äèïëîïèè, íè ýêçîôòàëüìà, íè ïðèïóõàíèÿ, íè ãèïåðåìèè, íè õåìîçà... ×òî æ ýòî çà ìèîçèò òàêîé óùåðáíûé? Æä¸ì 2-3 äíÿ, ïîÿâÿòñÿ âñå ñèìïòîìû - è íà÷èíàåì ëå÷èòü?)
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 15.04.2013, 23:47
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,852
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Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
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Ann Indian Acad Neurol. 2012 Jul;15(3):224-6. doi: 10.4103/0972-2327.99729.
Painless orbital myositis.
Chakor RT, Santhosh NS.
Department of Neurology, T. N. M. C. and B. Y. L. Nair Hospital, A L Nair Road, Mumbai Central, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India.

Idiopathic orbital inflammation is the third most common orbital disease, following Graves orbitopathy and lymphoproliferative diseases. We present a 11 year old girl with 15 days history of painless diplopia. There was no history of fluctuation of symptoms, drooping of eye lids or diminished vision. She had near total restricted extra-ocular movements and mild proptosis of the right eye. There was no conjunctival injection, chemosis, or bulb pain. There was no eyelid retraction or lid lag. Rest of the neurological examination was unremarkable.Erythrocyte sedimentation rate was raised with eosinophilia. Antinuclear antibodies were positive. Liver, renal and thyroid functions were normal. Antithyroid, double stranded deoxyribonucleic acid and acetylcholine receptor antibodies were negative. Repetitive nerve stimulation was negative. Magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) of the orbit was typical of orbital myositis. The patient responded to oral steroids. Orbital myositis can present as painless diplopia. MRI of orbit is diagnostic in orbital myositis.

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Èíòåðåñíî, ó ýòîé äåâî÷êè èç êåéñà ìèîçèò áûë êàêîé-òî àëëåðãè÷åñêè-ýîçèíîôèëè÷åñêèé è àâòîðû â ïîëíîì òåêñòå èç ññûëêè óïîìèíàþò, ÷òî ó äåòåé ãëàçíûå ìèîçèòû ïðîòåêàþò ñ ýîçèíîôèëèåé â 30% ñëó÷àåâ - ó÷èòûâàÿ àëëåðãè÷åñêèé àíàìíåç â îðèãèíàëå è âûñûïàíèÿ, ìîæåò ïîñìîòðåòü îá. àíàëèç êðîâè íà ïðåäìåò íàëè÷èÿ ýîçèíîôèëèè?
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lizaliza lizaliza âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
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