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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
  #1  
Ñòàðûé 22.09.2009, 22:59
rodrn rodrn âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
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rodrn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìårodrn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Endothelin receptor blockers

Ïðèìåíÿþòñÿ ëè â Ðîññèè endothelin receptor blockers è, åñëè äà, òî ïðè êàêèõ ïîêàçàíèÿõ?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #2  
Ñòàðûé 22.09.2009, 23:10
Àâàòàð äëÿ Gilarov
Gilarov Gilarov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7,196
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 713 ðàç(à) çà 691 ñîîáùåíèé
Gilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Áîñåíòàí ó íàñ çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí âðîäå áû. Ïîêàçàíèÿ - ëåãî÷íàÿ ãèïåðòåíçèÿ. Î øèðîêîì ïðèìåíåíèè íå ñëûøàë. Ñàì òîæå ïîêà áåç íèõ îáõîæóñü.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #3  
Ñòàðûé 22.09.2009, 23:11
Yariko Yariko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 07.07.2008
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,871
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 16
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,141 ðàç(à) çà 2,050 ñîîáùåíèé
Yariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Áîçåíòàí çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí äëÿ ïîêàçàíèÿ ëåãî÷íàÿ ãèïåðòåíçèÿ: [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]

Êóïèòü ôàêòè÷åñêè íåâîçìîæíî (íåò â ïðîäàæå).  Ðîññèè PAH ñåðüåçíî çàíèìàþòñÿ â 3 ìåä ó÷ðåæäåíèÿõ. Èç òðåõ êëàññîâ ïðåïàðàòîâ ïåðâîé ëèíèè äëÿ ëå÷åíèÿ PAH áîçåíòàí - åäèíñòâåííûé çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûé â Ðîññèè. Èíãèáèòîðû ÔÄÝ-5 (ñèëäåíàôèë, òàäàëàôèë) â Ðîññèè ïî ýòîìó ïîêàçàíèþ, êàê â Åâðîïå Ðåâàöèî è Àäöèðêà, íå çàðåãèñòðèðîâàíû, íî çíàþ, ÷òî èíãèáèòîðû ÔÄÝ-5 èñïîëüçóþòñÿ ïî ýòîìó ïîêàçàíèþ off-label.

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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #4  
Ñòàðûé 23.09.2009, 16:40
rodrn rodrn âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 24.08.2009
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 295
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 10 ðàç(à) çà 10 ñîîáùåíèé
rodrn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìårodrn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Êîëëåãà ñêàçàë, ÷òî â Ãåðìàíèè endothelin receptor blockers çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííû ïîìèìî PAH åùå è äëÿ ëå÷åíèÿ àêðàëüíûõ íåêðîçîâ ñîñóäèñòîãî ãåíåçà ó ïàöèåíòîâ ñî ñêëåðîäåðìèåé.

Èíãèáèòîðû ÔÄÝ-5 ñèëüíî óñòóïàþò endothelin receptor blockers ïðè ëå÷åíèè PAH? Âû èõ íå ïðèìåíÿåòå èç-çà öåíû èëè åùå ïî êàêèì-òî ïðè÷èíàì?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #5  
Ñòàðûé 23.09.2009, 21:13
Yariko Yariko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 07.07.2008
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,871
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 16
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,141 ðàç(à) çà 2,050 ñîîáùåíèé
Yariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò rodrn Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Êîëëåãà ñêàçàë, ÷òî â Ãåðìàíèè endothelin receptor blockers çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííû ïîìèìî PAH åùå è äëÿ ëå÷åíèÿ àêðàëüíûõ íåêðîçîâ ñîñóäèñòîãî ãåíåçà ó ïàöèåíòîâ ñî ñêëåðîäåðìèåé.

Èíãèáèòîðû ÔÄÝ-5 ñèëüíî óñòóïàþò endothelin receptor blockers ïðè ëå÷åíèè PAH? Âû èõ íå ïðèìåíÿåòå èç-çà öåíû èëè åùå ïî êàêèì-òî ïðè÷èíàì?
Ðîìàí, ó íàñ çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí 1 áëîêàòîð ýíäîòåëèíîâûõ ðåöåïòîðîâ - áîçåíòàí, êîòîðûé êóïèòü ïðàêòè÷åñêè íåâîçìîæíî, êîãäà áûë â ïðîäàæå èç-çà âûñîêîé öåíû, ñåé÷àñ åãî ïðàêòè÷åñêè íåò â ðîçíè÷íîé ïðîäàæå. Èíãèáèòîðû ÔÄÝ-5 â íàñòîÿùèé ìîìåíò çàðåãèñòðèðîâàíû â Ðîññèè òîëüêî ïî ïîêàçàíèþ ýðåêòèëüíàÿ äèñôóíêöèÿ (â Åâðîïå ñèëäåíàôèë è òàäàëàôèë çàðåãèñòðèðîâàíû ïî ïîêàçàíèþ ëåãî÷íàÿ ãèïåðòåíçèÿ êàê Revatio è Adcirca).  òîæå âðåìÿ, â Ðîññèéñêèõ ðåêîìåíäàöèÿõ ïî PAH èíãèáèòîðû ÔÄÝ-5 ðåêîìåíäîâàíû.  öåíòðàõ, ãäå çàíèìàþòñÿ PAH, èíãèáèòîðû ÔÄÝ-5 ïðèìåíÿþò.
Öèòàòà:
Sildenafil Equal to Bosentan in Pulmonary Hypertension Therapy

Clinical Question: Is sildenafil (Viagra) more effective than bosentan (Tracleer) in the treatment of patients with class III pulmonary hypertension?

Setting: Outpatient (specialty)

Study Design: Randomized controlled trial (double-blinded)

Allocation: Concealed

Synopsis: Investigators recruited consecutive patients with World Health Organization class III pulmonary hypertension. These patients could walk only 150 to 450 meters in six minutes. Patients with threefold elevations of liver enzymes, previous treatment with sildenafil or bosentan, and those in need of urgent therapy were excluded. Eligible patients were randomized (allocated via central computer) to receive sildenafil (n = 14) or bosentan (n = 12). The patients received bosentan in a dosage of 62.5 mg twice daily or sildenafil in a dosage of 50 mg twice daily for the first four weeks. Patients were then titrated up to 50 mg of sildenafil three times daily or 125 mg of bosentan twice daily (with a midday placebo tablet) for the next 12 weeks.

The researchers evaluated a variety of intermediate outcomes (e.g., right ventricular mass, change in six-minute walk distance, cardiac function) and symptom scores via intention to treat. One patient treated with sildenafil died and another did not finish the study. The researchers assigned worst-case values for missing data. Although each treatment increased patients' exercise capacity and quality of life, there were no differences between the treatments on any of the outcomes. The study was designed to detect tiny differences in right ventricle mass.

Bottom Line: In this small study, sildenafil and bosentan had similar effects on patients with moderately severe pulmonary hypertension. (Level of Evidence: 1b)
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
 ïðèíöèïå, ïàöèåíòû ñ PAH âñòðå÷àþòñÿ ðåäêî. Ïðîñòàíîèäû â Ðîññèè íå çàðåãèñòðèðîâàíû.

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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #6  
Ñòàðûé 23.09.2009, 21:27
Àâàòàð äëÿ Gilarov
Gilarov Gilarov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7,196
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 713 ðàç(à) çà 691 ñîîáùåíèé
Gilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ìåíÿ êñòàòè óäèâèëî, òî âíèìàíèå, êîòîðîå íà ïîñëåäíåì êîíãðåññå ESC óäåëÿåòñÿ ëåãî÷íîé ãèïåðòåíçèè - âèäèìî ðå÷ü íå î ïåðâè÷íîé (óæ áîëüíî åå ìàëî). Íåñêîëüêî ýíäîòåëèíîâûõ áëîêåðîâ, ñèëäåíàôèë. ðåêîìåíäàöèè ïî ËÃ. Ñîçäàëîñü âïå÷àòëåíèå, ÷òî ÿ ÷òî-òî óïóñêàþ, èáî ñïîêîéíî îáõîæóñü áåç ýòèõ ñðåäñòâ.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #7  
Ñòàðûé 23.09.2009, 21:37
Yariko Yariko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 07.07.2008
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,871
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 16
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,141 ðàç(à) çà 2,050 ñîîáùåíèé
Yariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ìèõàèë Þðüåâè÷, çà÷åì Âàì áîçåíòàí è èíãèáèòîðû ÔÄÝ-5? ×òî-òî íå ïîìíþ, ÷òîáû â ìîþ áûòíîñòü â 600-êîéêå ê íàì PAH ñòåêàëèñü. Âîò, ó Èðèíû Åâãåíüåâíû ×àçîâîé èõ ïðóä ïðóäè.
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #8  
Ñòàðûé 23.09.2009, 21:53
Àâàòàð äëÿ Gilarov
Gilarov Gilarov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7,196
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 713 ðàç(à) çà 691 ñîîáùåíèé
Gilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Þíîíà, ÿ äàëåê îò ìûñëè, ÷òî âñå ìàðêåòèíãîâûå óñèëèÿ ïî âûâîäó íîâûõ ïðåïàðàòîâ ïî áîðüáå ñ ëåãî÷íîé ãèïåðòåíçèåé òðàòÿòñÿ òîëüêî ðàäè ÐÀÍ. Äà è óêàçèâêè íå ïðî ÐÀÍ, à ïðî PÍ. Òî è óäèâëÿåò.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #9  
Ñòàðûé 23.09.2009, 22:08
Yariko Yariko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 07.07.2008
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,871
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 16
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,141 ðàç(à) çà 2,050 ñîîáùåíèé
Yariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
 Åâðîïåéñêèõ ðåêîìåíäàöèÿõ áîçåíòàí, èíãèáèòîðû ÔÄÝ-5 òîëüêî äëÿ PAH, è ïðîèçâîäèòåëè òîëüêî ïî ýòîìó ïîêàçàíèþ ðåãèñòðèðóþò

Öèòàòà:
Table 21 Recommendations for efficacy of specific drug therapy, balloon atrial septostomy, and lung transplantation for pulmonary arterial hypertension (group 1) according to WHO functional class (WHO-FC)
Measure/treatment Classes of recommendation–level of evidence
WHO-FC II WHO-FC III WHO-FC IV
Calcium channel blockers I–Ca I–Ca –
Endothelin receptor antagonists
Ambrisentan I–A I–A IIa–C
Bosentan I–A I–A IIa–C
Sitaxentan IIa–C I–A IIa–C
Phosphodiesterase type-5 inhibitors
Sildenafil I–A I–A IIa–C
Tadalafil I–B I–B IIa–C
Prostanoids
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #10  
Ñòàðûé 23.09.2009, 22:22
rodrn rodrn âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 24.08.2009
Ãîðîä: Dresden
Ñîîáùåíèé: 295
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 36
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 10 ðàç(à) çà 10 ñîîáùåíèé
rodrn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìårodrn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
 Åâðîïå PAH íå åäèíñòâåííîå ïîêàçàíèå äëÿ endothelin receptor blockers
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #11  
Ñòàðûé 23.09.2009, 22:37
Yariko Yariko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 07.07.2008
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,871
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 16
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,141 ðàç(à) çà 2,050 ñîîáùåíèé
Yariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò rodrn Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
 Åâðîïå PAH íå åäèíñòâåííîå ïîêàçàíèå äëÿ endothelin receptor blockers
â ðàìêàõ ëåãî÷íûõ ãèïåðòåíçèé òîëüêî äëÿ PAH
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Ñ óâàæåíèåì
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #12  
Ñòàðûé 23.09.2009, 23:05
rodrn rodrn âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 24.08.2009
Ãîðîä: Dresden
Ñîîáùåíèé: 295
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 36
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 10 ðàç(à) çà 10 ñîîáùåíèé
rodrn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìårodrn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
À âíå ðàìîê?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #13  
Ñòàðûé 23.09.2009, 23:18
Yariko Yariko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 07.07.2008
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,871
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 16
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,141 ðàç(à) çà 2,050 ñîîáùåíèé
Yariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
äà, â Åâðîïå åñòü åùå ïîêàçàíèÿ âíå ðàìîê PH, â Ðîññèè - íåò.
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #14  
Ñòàðûé 28.09.2009, 21:29
rodrn rodrn âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 24.08.2009
Ãîðîä: Dresden
Ñîîáùåíèé: 295
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 36
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 10 ðàç(à) çà 10 ñîîáùåíèé
rodrn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìårodrn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
À êàê Âû îöåíèâàåòå ïåðñïåêòèâû ýòîé ãðóïïû ëåêàðñòâåííûõ ñðåäñòâ? Íà îñíîâàíèè ýêñïåðèìåíòàëüíûõ äàííûõ, ïðè êàêèõ åùå çàáîëåâàíèÿõ îíè ìîãóò íàéòè ñâîå ïðèìåíåíèå (íå ñëåäèë çà ëèòåðàòóðîé â ýòîé îáëàñòè )?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #15  
Ñòàðûé 28.09.2009, 21:35
Àâàòàð äëÿ Gilarov
Gilarov Gilarov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7,196
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 713 ðàç(à) çà 691 ñîîáùåíèé
Gilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
ß òîæå íå ñëåäèë.
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