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Ñòàðûé 13.05.2010, 10:26
Zebra21 Zebra21 âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2 ðàç(à) çà 2 ñîîáùåíèé
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verba-knt, îò÷àñòè ïðè÷èíà ìîæåò áûòü òàêîâà - ó íàñ, íàïðèìåð, ðåãóëÿðíî âûÿâëÿþòñÿ (ñàìèìè ïàöèåíòàìè) òî, ÷òî â êàðòî÷êó ñòàâÿòñÿ îòìåòêè î ïðèâèâêàõ, õîòÿ îíè èõ íå äåëàëè. ß ëè÷íî çíàþ 3 òàêèõ ëþäåé. ×òî æå òâîðèòñÿ â Òàäæèêèñòàíå? ß íå õî÷ó ãîâîðèòü, ÷òî âñå áûëè ñ ïðèïèñêàìè, íî êàêîâ ïðîöåíò - ðåàëüíî ëè âûÿâèòü?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #17  
Ñòàðûé 13.05.2010, 10:29
Àâàòàð äëÿ Gratis
Gratis Gratis âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
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Gratis ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGratis ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGratis ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGratis ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGratis ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGratis ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGratis ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGratis ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGratis ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGratis ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGratis ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Íàòàëüÿ Ï. Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Ïóñòü êîìèññèè íà ìåñòå ðàçáèðàþòñÿ è äåëàþò âûâîäû, ìû ïîòîì ïî÷èòàåì.
Âñïîìèíàÿ âñïûøêó äèôòåðèè, ïåðåä ãëàçàìè âñòàþò ïðèïèñêè â êàðòàõ ó íåïðèâèòûõ. Îïÿòü æå ÎÏÂ - ýòî æèâàÿ âàêöèíà, êîòîðàÿ â óñëîâèè æàðêîé ñòðàíû ìîãëà íåàäåêâàòíî õðàíèòüñÿ.
Íî âñå ýòî, êîíå÷íî, ïðåäïîëîæåíèÿ. Åñòåñòâåííî, âñïûøêà âîçíèêëà èç-çà íàëè÷èÿ íåèììóííûõ äåòåé. Îòêóäà âçÿëèñü ýòè íåèììóííûå äåòè - ïóñòü ðàçáèðàþòñÿ ýêñïåðòû. Òîæå õî÷ó ïî÷èòàòü âûâîäû. Íî íå îæèäàþ ÷åãî òî ñâåðõúåñòåñòâåííîãî â âûâîäàõ. Êàêèå òî ïðîñ÷åòû â îðãàíèçàöèè èììóíèçàöèè.
Èíòåðåñíî òîëüêî óçíàòü: êàê ìîæíî âûÿâèòü ïðîâîäèëèñü ëè íà ñàìîì äåëå âàêöèíàöèè (â ....êèñòàíå!).
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 13.05.2010, 10:34
Àâàòàð äëÿ Aminazinka
Aminazinka Aminazinka âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîë÷àëèâîå ïðèâèäåíèå
      
 
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 19,909
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 620 ðàç(à) çà 557 ñîîáùåíèé
Aminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Íàòàëüÿ Ï. Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Âñïîìèíàÿ âñïûøêó äèôòåðèè, ïåðåä ãëàçàìè âñòàþò ïðèïèñêè â êàðòàõ ó íåïðèâèòûõ. Îïÿòü æå ÎÏÂ - ýòî æèâàÿ âàêöèíà, êîòîðàÿ â óñëîâèè æàðêîé ñòðàíû ìîãëà íåàäåêâàòíî õðàíèòüñÿ.
Íî âñå ýòî, êîíå÷íî, ïðåäïîëîæåíèÿ. Åñòåñòâåííî, âñïûøêà âîçíèêëà èç-çà íàëè÷èÿ íåèììóííûõ äåòåé.
Êîíå÷íî, áóäåì æäàòü âûâîäîâ, íàì îòñþäà íå âèäàòü, â ÷åì òàì äåëî. Åñòü òîëüêî îäíà ìûñëü ïî ïîâîäó: ÷üÿ-òî õèòðîñòü âûøëà áîêîì áîëüøîìó êîëè÷åñòâó íàðîäà.  ëþáîì çâåíå ïðèâèâî÷íîé öåïî÷êå ìîæíî òàêîãî õèòðîãî íàéòè: íà÷èíàÿ îò ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿ è ïîñòàâùèêîâ âàêöèíû, êîí÷àÿ êîíêðåòíûìè äåòüìè è èõ ðîäèòåëÿìè. Ìåæäó ýòèìè äâóìÿ êîíöàìè åñòü åùå ñèñòåìà çäðàâîîõðàíåíèÿ ñî âñåìè åå íþàíñàìè.
Ïîäîæäåì.
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 13.05.2010, 11:03
Àâàòàð äëÿ verba-knt
verba-knt verba-knt âíå ôîðóìà
Ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1 ðàç çà 1 ñîîáùåíèå
verba-knt ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê ïîëîæèòåëüíî õàðàêòåðèçóåòñÿ íà ôîðóìå
Âîîáùå, ñ ìîåé òî÷êè çðåíèÿ, "ïðèïèñûâàòü" íåñäåëàííóþ ïðèâèâêó - ýòî ïðåñòóïëåíèå è ãëóïîñòü íåñóñâåòíàÿ îäíîâðåìåííî Íó îôîðìèëè áû îòêàç íîðìàëüíî, à òåïåðü íà÷íåòñÿ äåòåêòèâ Ñàìà íå ðàç ñëûøàëà î ïðèïèñêàõ, ëè÷íî íå ñòàëêèâàëàñü.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #20  
Ñòàðûé 13.05.2010, 11:16
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. Íàòàëüÿ Ï. âíå ôîðóìà
Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.11.2004
Ãîðîä: íåò
Ñîîáùåíèé: 13,066
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,101 ðàç(à) çà 845 ñîîáùåíèé
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
ïåðåíîøó òåìó â Ðàçíîå.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #21  
Ñòàðûé 13.05.2010, 11:20
BBC BBC âíå ôîðóìà
ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 15.08.2005
Ãîðîä: Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 31,518
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 4,832 ðàç(à) çà 3,086 ñîîáùåíèé
BBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ìîäåðàòîðñêàÿ ãðóïïà íàïîìèíàåò, ÷òî äàæå áóäó÷è â "Ðàçíîì" òåìà ïîñâÿùåíà ïîÿâëåíèþ ñëó÷àåâ ïîëèîìèåëèòà, à íå ïðèïèñêàì, ÷àñòíûì ìíåíèÿì è "ÿ ñëûøàëà".
Òåìà äîñòàòî÷íî ñåðüåçíà è èíòåðåñíà, ÷òîáû íå çàôëóæèâàòü åå.
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Âàëåðèé Âàëåðüåâè÷ Ñàìîéëåíêî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 13.05.2010, 11:21
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. Íàòàëüÿ Ï. âíå ôîðóìà
Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
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Ãîðîä: íåò
Ñîîáùåíèé: 13,066
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,101 ðàç(à) çà 845 ñîîáùåíèé
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Äà, ïåðåíîñ â Ðàçíîå îçíà÷àåò âîçìîæíîñòü ïèñàòü â òåìå íå òîëüêî àâòîðó. Ôëóä áóäåò óäàëÿòüñÿ, êàê îáû÷íî.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 13.05.2010, 16:56
Var_var_a Var_var_a âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
Ñåðôåð
 
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 4
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 2
Var_var_a *
Ñòîèò ëè ïóãàòüñÿ âçðîñëûì, êîòîðûå íå çíàþò òî÷íî, äåëàëàñü ëè èì ïðèâèâêà, è êàêèì-òî îáðàçîì ïðîâåðÿòü íàëè÷èå èììóíèòåòà?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 13.05.2010, 17:50
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,637
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,355 ðàç(à) çà 31,700 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âîò êàê ñèòóàöèþ îïèñûâàåò Êðàñíûé Êðåñò íà êîíåö àïðåëÿ:

In 2002, the Republic of Tajikistan, along with other European states, was declared a polio-free country.
Since 1997 not a single case of polio has been reported in the country. However, neighbouring Afghanistan
annually recorded cases of polio, and for this reason there has been a possibility of occurrence of this
disease in Tajikistan. For this eventuality the government of Tajikistan has prepared a plan for prompt
action to prevent this disease, and every emerging disease similar to polio is under strict epidemiological
surveillance.
Over the past few years, some 25-40 cases of acute flaccid paralysis (AFP) were registered in the country.
In the first quarter of 2010, the number of AFP cased gradually increased.
By 21 April 2010, Tajikistan had reported 120 cases of acute flaccid paralysis in 20 districts of the country.
On 23 April the number of cases had increased to 128; 10 children died. The vast majority of the cases are
children under five years old. Preliminary data suggests that more than 45 per cent of the 128 cases had
four or more doses of oral polio vaccine2. The majority of them had onset of paralysis within the past two
weeks, prompting the government to notify WHO of an outbreak.

Íà íà÷àëî ìàÿ:

From January 2010, 172 cases of Acute Flaccid Paralysis (AFP) have been reported by the Ministry of Health. Of these, 32 have been confirmed as wild poliovirus type 1 (WPV1); results are awaited for the remaining cases.

There have been 12 deaths as a result of the infection. All cases are from the southwest of the country, including the capital city Dushanbe. Thirty one of the 32 cases have been children under the age of 5 years.
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Èñêðåííå,
Âàäèì Âàëåðüåâè÷.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #25  
Ñòàðûé 13.05.2010, 19:07
Aprikot Aprikot âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 02.03.2009
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 15
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 6
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 3 ðàç(à) çà 2 ñîîáùåíèé
Aprikot *
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Var_var_a Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Ñòîèò ëè ïóãàòüñÿ âçðîñëûì, êîòîðûå íå çíàþò òî÷íî, äåëàëàñü ëè èì ïðèâèâêà, è êàêèì-òî îáðàçîì ïðîâåðÿòü íàëè÷èå èììóíèòåòà?
åñëè Âû ðîñëè â Ñîâåòñêîì Ñîþçå, òî ñêîðåå âñåãî Âàì å¸ äåëàëè (ðîçîâûå êàïëè â ðîò, êàê ñëàäêîå ìûëî... áåååå))) )

Íî ê âîïðîñó î òîì, ÷òî äåëàòü âçðîñëûì, ïðèñîåäèíþñü. Íóæíà ëè ðåâàêöèíàöèÿ? Ïîñëåäíÿÿ ÎÏÂ áûëà ãäå-òî â ñðåäíèõ êëàññàõ, ëåò 20 íàçàä.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #26  
Ñòàðûé 13.05.2010, 19:16
Àâàòàð äëÿ Fly_snow
Fly_snow Fly_snow âíå ôîðóìà
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 04.09.2008
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 393
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 124
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 10 ðàç(à) çà 6 ñîîáùåíèé
Fly_snow ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê ïîëîæèòåëüíî õàðàêòåðèçóåòñÿ íà ôîðóìå
Ìîæåò, âîïðîñ ãëóïûé, íî ìåíÿ ðîäè÷è çàåëè ñ íèì ß âàðþ äî÷êå êîìïîòû èç ñóõîôðóêòîâ êàæäûé äåíü (ÿáëîêè, èçþì, ÷åðíîñëèâ). À òóò áëèçêèå ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî ñóõîôðóêòû âîîáùå óïîòðåáëÿòü íåëüçÿ, ò.ê. íà íèõ ìîæåò áûòü ïîëèîìèåëèò (â íîâîñòÿõ ïåðåäàâàëè). Äåéñòâèòåëüíî ýòî òàê îïàñíî? Ñêîëüêî æå åãî íàäî êèïÿòèòü, ÷òîáû ýòó ãàäîñòü óáèòü?
Äî÷êà îò ïîëèîìèåëèòà ïðèâèòà ñîãëàñíî íàöèîíàëüíîìó êàëåíäàðþ.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #27  
Ñòàðûé 13.05.2010, 22:10
vinny vinny âíå ôîðóìà
Ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 04.10.2008
Ãîðîä: hjccbz
Ñîîáùåíèé: 148
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 52
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2 ðàç(à) çà 2 ñîîáùåíèé
vinny *
ñêàæèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, ãäå-òî òóò íà ôëðóìå ÿ ÷èòàëà èíôîðìàöèþ î òîì, ÷òî â Ôèíëÿíäèè áûëà âñïûøêà ïîëèîìèåëèòà èç-çà òîãî, ÷òî òàì äåëàëè ïðèâèêó ÒÎËÜÊÎ èíàêòèâèðîâàííîé âàêöèíîé, è ÷òî äëÿ çàùèòû îò äèêîãî âèðóñà íåîáõîäèìà ÎÏÂ. Ýòà èíôîðìàöèÿ âñå åùå àêòóàëüíà? èëè âñå æå íàñ çàùèòèò èíàêòèâèðîâàííàÿ âàêöèíà? Äî÷åðè 1 ãîä è 7 ìåñÿöåâ, ìû ñäåëàëè òîëüêî 3 èíúåêöèè ïåíòàêñèìà.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #28  
Ñòàðûé 17.05.2010, 16:59
inei inei âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
Ñåðôåð
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 17.05.2010
Ãîðîä: germany
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3
inei *
Wink

íå ïîíÿòíî ìíåíèå ñïåöèàëèñòîâ ïî ïîâîäó ññûëêè íà ÂÎÇ

-åñëè äåòè ïðèâèòû, òî ïî÷åìó îíè çàáîëåëè?
- åñëè äåòè ïîëó÷èëè 1-ó æèâóþ, êîòîðàÿ íàèáîëåå ýôôåêòèâíà è 1-ó èíàêòèâèðîâàííóþ âàêöèíó òî ïî÷åìó âñå-òàêè çàáîëåëè, äà åùå ñ òàêèìè ïîñëåäñòâèÿìè?
- åñëè äåòè ïîëó÷èëè âàêöèíàöèþ òîëüêî æèâîé âàêöèíîé òî ïî÷åìó îíà îêàçàëàñü ìåíåå ýôôåêòèâíà ÷åì èíàêòèâèðîâàííàÿ, êîòîðóþ äàþò äåòÿì â åâðîïå?
-ïî÷åìó íåò âñïûøåê â åâðîïå, íåñìîòðÿ íà îãðîìíîå êîëè÷åñòâî áåæåíöåâ è äðóãèõ ýììèãðàíòîâ?
-ïî÷åìó ñìåðòíîñòü îêàçàëàñü òàêîé âûñîêîé òîãäà êàê ÂÎÇ ïèøåò " îäíîì èç 200 ñëó÷àåâ èíôèöèðîâàíèÿ ðàçâèâàåòñÿ íåîáðàòèìûé ïàðàëè÷ (îáû÷íî íîã). Èç òàêèõ ïàðàëèçîâàííûõ 5%-10% óìèðàþò â ðåçóëüòàòå èììîáèëèçàöèè äûõàòåëüíûõ ìûøö."  Òàêæèêèñòàíå âûãëÿäèò íàìíîãî õóæå.

Äàëåå óæå âîïðîñ òåîðåòè÷åñêèé, åñëè ìíå ïðåäëàãàþò ñ÷èòàòü âàêöèíèðîâàííûå äåòè íà ñàìîì äåëå íå áûëè âàêöèíèðîâàíû, òî ÷òî ìåøàåò ìíå äóìàòü, ÷òî ñëó÷àè ñìåðòåé è ïàðàëè÷à âûçâàíû âîâñå íå ïîëèîìèåëèòîì, âåäü âèðóñ ìîã ïðèñóòñòâîâàòü è ïðè íàëè÷èè äðóãîãî çàáîëåâàíèÿ/îòðàâëåíèÿ?


ïðåäïîëàãàþ, ÷òî ýòà "ýïèäåìèÿ" çàñòàâèò ìíîãèõ ðîäèòåëåé ïåðåñìîòðåòü îòíîøåíèå ê âàêöèíàöèè è áîëüøå ïîëàãàòüñÿ íà çäîðîâûé îáðàç æèçíè, à òàêæå èñêàòü ìåäèöèíñêèå óñëóãè òàì, ãäå èõ öåííîñòè ðàçäåëÿþò.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #29  
Ñòàðûé 17.05.2010, 17:31
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. Íàòàëüÿ Ï. âíå ôîðóìà
Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.11.2004
Ãîðîä: íåò
Ñîîáùåíèé: 13,066
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,101 ðàç(à) çà 845 ñîîáùåíèé
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Îêîí÷àòåëüíûõ âûâîäîâ åùå íå ñäåëàíî, ïî÷èòàåì âñå âìåñòå, êîãäà ïîÿâÿòñÿ.
Çäîðîâûé îáðàç æèçíè íå çàùèòèò íåïðèâèòîãî. Íî âñåì æåëàþùèì åñòåñòâåííîãî îòáîðà - ôëàã â ðóêè è ñâîáîäà âûáîðà.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #30  
Ñòàðûé 17.05.2010, 17:43
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,637
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,355 ðàç(à) çà 31,700 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âîò ÷òî ïèøóò ïî òåìå â áëîãàõ:

Tajikistan should simply not be seeing a polio outbreak – an 82% vaccination rate is enough to achieve herd immunity and protect even the unvaccinated. And we know this is not one of the rare vaccine-caused outbreaks because the WHO has done genetic analysis on the polio strain – it is wild polio.

Something has gone wrong in the health sector in Tajikistan. There are several ways that the health system could fail on vaccination. Vaccine records could be inaccurate, causing unvaccinated children to be missed by the system. Or the cold chain is not being maintained and the vaccines are losing effectiveness – the oral polio vaccine is especially vulnerable to warm temperatures. Whatever happened, it’s a sign of health system weakness and the Ministry of Health of Tajikistan will need support to improve it....

Tajikistan’s polio outbreak is a warning sign. You can’t eliminate a disease without also building a health system that ensures the disease stays eliminated.
May 13, 2010

[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
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