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verba-knt, îò÷àñòè ïðè÷èíà ìîæåò áûòü òàêîâà - ó íàñ, íàïðèìåð, ðåãóëÿðíî âûÿâëÿþòñÿ (ñàìèìè ïàöèåíòàìè) òî, ÷òî â êàðòî÷êó ñòàâÿòñÿ îòìåòêè î ïðèâèâêàõ, õîòÿ îíè èõ íå äåëàëè. ß ëè÷íî çíàþ 3 òàêèõ ëþäåé. ×òî æå òâîðèòñÿ â Òàäæèêèñòàíå? ß íå õî÷ó ãîâîðèòü, ÷òî âñå áûëè ñ ïðèïèñêàìè, íî êàêîâ ïðîöåíò - ðåàëüíî ëè âûÿâèòü?
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Öèòàòà:
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Öèòàòà:
Ïîäîæäåì.
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Âîîáùå, ñ ìîåé òî÷êè çðåíèÿ, "ïðèïèñûâàòü" íåñäåëàííóþ ïðèâèâêó - ýòî ïðåñòóïëåíèå è ãëóïîñòü íåñóñâåòíàÿ îäíîâðåìåííî Íó îôîðìèëè áû îòêàç íîðìàëüíî, à òåïåðü íà÷íåòñÿ äåòåêòèâ Ñàìà íå ðàç ñëûøàëà î ïðèïèñêàõ, ëè÷íî íå ñòàëêèâàëàñü.
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ïåðåíîøó òåìó â Ðàçíîå.
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Ìîäåðàòîðñêàÿ ãðóïïà íàïîìèíàåò, ÷òî äàæå áóäó÷è â "Ðàçíîì" òåìà ïîñâÿùåíà ïîÿâëåíèþ ñëó÷àåâ ïîëèîìèåëèòà, à íå ïðèïèñêàì, ÷àñòíûì ìíåíèÿì è "ÿ ñëûøàëà".
Òåìà äîñòàòî÷íî ñåðüåçíà è èíòåðåñíà, ÷òîáû íå çàôëóæèâàòü åå.
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Äà, ïåðåíîñ â Ðàçíîå îçíà÷àåò âîçìîæíîñòü ïèñàòü â òåìå íå òîëüêî àâòîðó. Ôëóä áóäåò óäàëÿòüñÿ, êàê îáû÷íî.
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Ñòîèò ëè ïóãàòüñÿ âçðîñëûì, êîòîðûå íå çíàþò òî÷íî, äåëàëàñü ëè èì ïðèâèâêà, è êàêèì-òî îáðàçîì ïðîâåðÿòü íàëè÷èå èììóíèòåòà?
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Âîò êàê ñèòóàöèþ îïèñûâàåò Êðàñíûé Êðåñò íà êîíåö àïðåëÿ:
In 2002, the Republic of Tajikistan, along with other European states, was declared a polio-free country. Since 1997 not a single case of polio has been reported in the country. However, neighbouring Afghanistan annually recorded cases of polio, and for this reason there has been a possibility of occurrence of this disease in Tajikistan. For this eventuality the government of Tajikistan has prepared a plan for prompt action to prevent this disease, and every emerging disease similar to polio is under strict epidemiological surveillance. Over the past few years, some 25-40 cases of acute flaccid paralysis (AFP) were registered in the country. In the first quarter of 2010, the number of AFP cased gradually increased. By 21 April 2010, Tajikistan had reported 120 cases of acute flaccid paralysis in 20 districts of the country. On 23 April the number of cases had increased to 128; 10 children died. The vast majority of the cases are children under five years old. Preliminary data suggests that more than 45 per cent of the 128 cases had four or more doses of oral polio vaccine2. The majority of them had onset of paralysis within the past two weeks, prompting the government to notify WHO of an outbreak. Íà íà÷àëî ìàÿ: From January 2010, 172 cases of Acute Flaccid Paralysis (AFP) have been reported by the Ministry of Health. Of these, 32 have been confirmed as wild poliovirus type 1 (WPV1); results are awaited for the remaining cases. There have been 12 deaths as a result of the infection. All cases are from the southwest of the country, including the capital city Dushanbe. Thirty one of the 32 cases have been children under the age of 5 years.
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Èñêðåííå, Âàäèì Âàëåðüåâè÷. |
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Öèòàòà:
Íî ê âîïðîñó î òîì, ÷òî äåëàòü âçðîñëûì, ïðèñîåäèíþñü. Íóæíà ëè ðåâàêöèíàöèÿ? Ïîñëåäíÿÿ ÎÏÂ áûëà ãäå-òî â ñðåäíèõ êëàññàõ, ëåò 20 íàçàä. |
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Ìîæåò, âîïðîñ ãëóïûé, íî ìåíÿ ðîäè÷è çàåëè ñ íèì ß âàðþ äî÷êå êîìïîòû èç ñóõîôðóêòîâ êàæäûé äåíü (ÿáëîêè, èçþì, ÷åðíîñëèâ). À òóò áëèçêèå ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî ñóõîôðóêòû âîîáùå óïîòðåáëÿòü íåëüçÿ, ò.ê. íà íèõ ìîæåò áûòü ïîëèîìèåëèò (â íîâîñòÿõ ïåðåäàâàëè). Äåéñòâèòåëüíî ýòî òàê îïàñíî? Ñêîëüêî æå åãî íàäî êèïÿòèòü, ÷òîáû ýòó ãàäîñòü óáèòü?
Äî÷êà îò ïîëèîìèåëèòà ïðèâèòà ñîãëàñíî íàöèîíàëüíîìó êàëåíäàðþ. |
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ñêàæèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, ãäå-òî òóò íà ôëðóìå ÿ ÷èòàëà èíôîðìàöèþ î òîì, ÷òî â Ôèíëÿíäèè áûëà âñïûøêà ïîëèîìèåëèòà èç-çà òîãî, ÷òî òàì äåëàëè ïðèâèêó ÒÎËÜÊÎ èíàêòèâèðîâàííîé âàêöèíîé, è ÷òî äëÿ çàùèòû îò äèêîãî âèðóñà íåîáõîäèìà ÎÏÂ. Ýòà èíôîðìàöèÿ âñå åùå àêòóàëüíà? èëè âñå æå íàñ çàùèòèò èíàêòèâèðîâàííàÿ âàêöèíà? Äî÷åðè 1 ãîä è 7 ìåñÿöåâ, ìû ñäåëàëè òîëüêî 3 èíúåêöèè ïåíòàêñèìà.
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íå ïîíÿòíî ìíåíèå ñïåöèàëèñòîâ ïî ïîâîäó ññûëêè íà ÂÎÇ
-åñëè äåòè ïðèâèòû, òî ïî÷åìó îíè çàáîëåëè? - åñëè äåòè ïîëó÷èëè 1-ó æèâóþ, êîòîðàÿ íàèáîëåå ýôôåêòèâíà è 1-ó èíàêòèâèðîâàííóþ âàêöèíó òî ïî÷åìó âñå-òàêè çàáîëåëè, äà åùå ñ òàêèìè ïîñëåäñòâèÿìè? - åñëè äåòè ïîëó÷èëè âàêöèíàöèþ òîëüêî æèâîé âàêöèíîé òî ïî÷åìó îíà îêàçàëàñü ìåíåå ýôôåêòèâíà ÷åì èíàêòèâèðîâàííàÿ, êîòîðóþ äàþò äåòÿì â åâðîïå? -ïî÷åìó íåò âñïûøåê â åâðîïå, íåñìîòðÿ íà îãðîìíîå êîëè÷åñòâî áåæåíöåâ è äðóãèõ ýììèãðàíòîâ? -ïî÷åìó ñìåðòíîñòü îêàçàëàñü òàêîé âûñîêîé òîãäà êàê ÂÎÇ ïèøåò " îäíîì èç 200 ñëó÷àåâ èíôèöèðîâàíèÿ ðàçâèâàåòñÿ íåîáðàòèìûé ïàðàëè÷ (îáû÷íî íîã). Èç òàêèõ ïàðàëèçîâàííûõ 5%-10% óìèðàþò â ðåçóëüòàòå èììîáèëèçàöèè äûõàòåëüíûõ ìûøö."  Òàêæèêèñòàíå âûãëÿäèò íàìíîãî õóæå. Äàëåå óæå âîïðîñ òåîðåòè÷åñêèé, åñëè ìíå ïðåäëàãàþò ñ÷èòàòü âàêöèíèðîâàííûå äåòè íà ñàìîì äåëå íå áûëè âàêöèíèðîâàíû, òî ÷òî ìåøàåò ìíå äóìàòü, ÷òî ñëó÷àè ñìåðòåé è ïàðàëè÷à âûçâàíû âîâñå íå ïîëèîìèåëèòîì, âåäü âèðóñ ìîã ïðèñóòñòâîâàòü è ïðè íàëè÷èè äðóãîãî çàáîëåâàíèÿ/îòðàâëåíèÿ? ïðåäïîëàãàþ, ÷òî ýòà "ýïèäåìèÿ" çàñòàâèò ìíîãèõ ðîäèòåëåé ïåðåñìîòðåòü îòíîøåíèå ê âàêöèíàöèè è áîëüøå ïîëàãàòüñÿ íà çäîðîâûé îáðàç æèçíè, à òàêæå èñêàòü ìåäèöèíñêèå óñëóãè òàì, ãäå èõ öåííîñòè ðàçäåëÿþò. |
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Îêîí÷àòåëüíûõ âûâîäîâ åùå íå ñäåëàíî, ïî÷èòàåì âñå âìåñòå, êîãäà ïîÿâÿòñÿ.
Çäîðîâûé îáðàç æèçíè íå çàùèòèò íåïðèâèòîãî. Íî âñåì æåëàþùèì åñòåñòâåííîãî îòáîðà - ôëàã â ðóêè è ñâîáîäà âûáîðà. |
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Âîò ÷òî ïèøóò ïî òåìå â áëîãàõ:
Tajikistan should simply not be seeing a polio outbreak – an 82% vaccination rate is enough to achieve herd immunity and protect even the unvaccinated. And we know this is not one of the rare vaccine-caused outbreaks because the WHO has done genetic analysis on the polio strain – it is wild polio. Something has gone wrong in the health sector in Tajikistan. There are several ways that the health system could fail on vaccination. Vaccine records could be inaccurate, causing unvaccinated children to be missed by the system. Or the cold chain is not being maintained and the vaccines are losing effectiveness – the oral polio vaccine is especially vulnerable to warm temperatures. Whatever happened, it’s a sign of health system weakness and the Ministry of Health of Tajikistan will need support to improve it.... Tajikistan’s polio outbreak is a warning sign. You can’t eliminate a disease without also building a health system that ensures the disease stays eliminated. May 13, 2010 [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
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Èñêðåííå, Âàäèì Âàëåðüåâè÷. |