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Õðîíè÷åñêèé ïðîñòàòè è ÏÑÀ

Ñ 2001 ãîäà äàèãíîñòèðóåòñÿ õðîíè÷åñêèé ïðñòàòèò.
Ñåê÷àñ òåðàïåâò íàïðèâèëà íà ñäà÷ó ÏÑÀ.
Êàêîâû ïîêàçàòåëè ÏÑÀ ïðè õðîíè÷åñêîì ïðîñòàòèòå???
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33 ãîäà.
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Ñòàðûé 21.09.2009, 12:34
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Andy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
À êàêîâà öåëü? Òåðàïåâò ïîñìîòðåë ðåêòàëüíî è çàïîäîçðèë ðàê ïðîñòàòû?

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Ñòàðûé 21.09.2009, 13:44
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ïðèøåë ñ æàëîáàìè íà áîëè â ñïèíå. äî ýòîãî ïðîõîäèë ëå÷åíèå ó óðîëîãà â ïëàòíîé êëèíèêå. äà è íå ðàç ó ðàçíûõ äîêòîðîâ. åìó ÿ ñêàçàë ÷òî åñòü áîëè â ñïèíå êðåñòöå óæå ïîñëå ëå÷åíèÿ. ïðîñòàòà ïðèøëà â íîðìó è îíà òàêèå áîëè äâàòü íå ìîæåò - îí îòâåíòèë. îí ìíå ñêàçàë ÷òî ýòî íåâðîëîãè÷åñêîå. âîò ÿ è ðåøèë ñõîäèòü â ñâîþ ï-êó. è òåðàïåâò ñðàçó íàçíà÷èëà ïñà êàê óñëûøàëà î ïðîñòàòèòå. äèàãíîçîâ ÿ ñàì ñåáå óæå íàñòàâèë.
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Ñòàðûé 21.09.2009, 15:21
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Andy_Urologist Andy_Urologist âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
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Andy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
ÏÑÀ ÿâëÿåòñÿ îáÿçàòåëüíûì åæåãîäíûì ñêðèíèíãîâûì àíàëèçîì äëÿ ìóæ÷èí ïîñëå 50 ëåò (åñëè âû áåëûé). Èëè îí ñäà¸òñÿ ïî ïîêàçàíèÿì, òî åñòü, ïðè ïîäîçðåíèè íà íîâîîáðàçîâàíèå ïðîñòàòû, åñëè ýòî ïîäîçðåíèå ïîÿâèëîñü ïîñëå ïðîâåäåíèÿ äðóãèõ ìåòîäîâ îáñëåäîâàíèÿ (ïàëüöåâîå ðåêòàëüíîå îáñëåäîâàíèå èëè ÒÐÓÇÈ).

 âàøåì ñëó÷àå íè òîãî, íè äðóãîãî íåò. Òàê ÷òî ìîæåòå, êîíå÷íî, ÏÑÀ ñäàòü, íî ïðîñòî ðàäè èíòåðåñà. Ïðÿìûõ ïîêàçàíèé íåò.
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Ñòàðûé 21.09.2009, 15:33
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Ñîîáùåíèå îò Andy_Urologist Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
ÏÑÀ ÿâëÿåòñÿ îáÿçàòåëüíûì åæåãîäíûì ñêðèíèíãîâûì àíàëèçîì äëÿ ìóæ÷èí ïîñëå 50 ëåò (åñëè âû áåëûé). Èëè îí ñäà¸òñÿ ïî ïîêàçàíèÿì, òî åñòü, ïðè ïîäîçðåíèè íà íîâîîáðàçîâàíèå ïðîñòàòû, åñëè ýòî ïîäîçðåíèå ïîÿâèëîñü ïîñëå ïðîâåäåíèÿ äðóãèõ ìåòîäîâ îáñëåäîâàíèÿ (ïàëüöåâîå ðåêòàëüíîå îáñëåäîâàíèå èëè ÒÐÓÇÈ).

 âàøåì ñëó÷àå íè òîãî, íè äðóãîãî íåò. Òàê ÷òî ìîæåòå, êîíå÷íî, ÏÑÀ ñäàòü, íî ïðîñòî ðàäè èíòåðåñà. Ïðÿìûõ ïîêàçàíèé íåò.
Ñïàñèáî. ðåøèë ñàì ñäàòü à òî íà ñòåíó ëåçó.
òðóçè â ìàðòå âûÿâèë ïðîñòàòèò:Ýõîãðàôè÷åñêàÿ êàïòèíà õðîíè÷åñêîãî ïðîñòàòèòà. Ñïðàâà â êàóäàëüíîé çîíå ôîðìèðóåòñÿ êèñòà. ýõîìàðêåðû îáîñòðåíèÿ. ýòî ïîëãîäà íàçàä. ñ òîãî âðåìåíè ïðîëå÷èëñÿ 2 ðàçà. ïàëüöåâîå ðåêòàëüíîå îáñëåäîâàíèå âûÿâèëî òàêæå ïðîñòàòèò. óâåëè÷åíèå ñïðàâà. ïîñëå ïðèåìà àíòèáèîòèêîâ è ìàññàæà, ðàçìåð óìåíüøèäñÿ. ñàìîìó ïðè ìàññàæå ñòàëî çàìåòíî.
âîò ÿ äóìàþ ìîæåò îíè ïðîïóñòèëè ÷åãî?
áåñïîêîéíî âñå ýòî â 33 ãîäà ÏÑÀ. òåìáîëåå ñèïíà áîëèò, êðåñòåö, ïðîìåæíîñòü, è ëîáêîâàÿ ÷àñòü.
óðîëîã ïðè ëå÷åíèè íà ÏÑÀ íå ïîñûëàë ñäàâàòü - äîëæåí ëè îí áûë ýòî äåëàòü?
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Ñòàðûé 21.09.2009, 18:15
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Andy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Åñëè áû ïîäîçðåâàë ó âàñ ðàê ïðîñòàòû èëè âàì áûëî áû áîëåå 50 ëåò, òî äîëæåí. À òàê íåò.
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Ñòàðûé 22.09.2009, 16:32
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ÑÄÅËÀË ÀÍÀËÈÇÛ. ÝÒÎ ÏÐÎÑÒÀÒÈ ÂÑÅÒÀÊÈ???
¹ Èññëåäîâàíèå Ðàñ÷åòíàÿ äàòà âûïîëíåíèÿ Çíà÷åíèå Åä. èçìåðåíèÿ Íîðìàëüíûå çíà÷åíèÿ Ñòàòóñ
ÎÍÊÎÌÀÐÊÅÐÛ
1 Îáùèé ÏÑÀ 23/09/2009 1.030 íã/ìë 0.190 - 4.000 âûïîëíåíî
2 Ñâîáîäíûé ÏÑÀ 23/09/2009 0.188 íã/ìë 0.000 - 0.330 âûïîëíåíî
3 ÏÑÀ ñâîáîäíûé / ÏÑÀ îáùèé 23/09/2009 18.3 > 15.0
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Ñòàðûé 22.09.2009, 19:36
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Andy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
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