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Ïîâûøåí ÀÊÒà ïðè íîðìàëüíì êîðòèçîëå â ìî÷å.Ïîìîãèòå ðàçîáðàòüñÿ

Äîáðûé äåíü!
ìíå 29 ëåò,ìóæ,ðîñò 179 ,âåñ 78êã.
Æàëîáû áûñòðàÿ óòîìëÿåìîñòü,òðóäíîå ïðîñûïàíèå ïî óòðàì,ïîñòîÿííî ðàçáèòîñòü.òÿæåëàÿ ãîëîâà,ãîëîâîêðóæåíèÿ,íåõâàòêà âîçäóõà.Ñèìïòîìû èäóò ïî íàðàñòàþùåé ñ êîíöà 2015ã.
 îêòÿáðå 2018 áûë íà ïðèåìå ó íåâðîëîãà,îíà ïðîâîäèëà èññëåäîâàíèÿ, ïðåäâàðèòåëüíûé äèàãíîç,
-Äîðñîïàòèÿ,äèñôóíêöèÿ öåíòðàëüíûõ âåãåòàòèâíûõ ñòðóêòóð ïî ãèïîòîíè÷åñêîìó òèïó(äàâëåíèå 110-105/70-65)
Îíà íàïðàâèëà íà êîíñóëüòàöèþ ê ýíäîêðèíîëîãó ïî ïîâîäó íèçêîãî ïîêàçàòåëÿ ñóììàðíîãî âèòàìèíà Ä(îò 20îêò áûë 32 ïðè íîðìå îò 30 äî 100.)
Ýíäîêðèíîëîã íàïðàâèëà íà àíàëèçû.ß èõ ñäàë.
âðà÷ ñåé÷àñ â îòïóñêå.

Õî÷ó çàïèñàòüñÿ íà êîíñóëüòàöèþ â èíñòèòóò ýíäîêðèíîëîãèè.
è ïðèéòè ñî âñåìè íåîáõîäèìûìè íà äàííûé ìîìåíò èññëåäîâàíèÿìè, ÷òîáû íå òåðÿòü âðåìÿ
Ïîñìîòðèòå ïîæàëóéñòà ðåçóëüòàòû è äàéòå ñîâåò.
ß â ðàñòåðÿííîñòè è íàïóãàí
Çàðàíåå áëàãîäàðåí
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Îáùèé áåëîê 75.5 ã/ë 64 - 83
Êðåàòèíèí 76.0 ìêìîëü/ë 74 - 110
Ìî÷åâèíà 6.4 ììîëü/ë 3.2 - 8.1
Õîëåñòåðèí îáùèé 5.13 ììîëü/ë
Ñìîòðè òåêñò

Íîðìàëüíûé óðîâåíü <5,18
Óìåðåííî-ïîâûøåííûé 5,18-6,19
Âûñîêèé óðîâåíü >6.22
Àëàíèíàìèíîòðàíñôåðàçà (ÀËÒ) 48.5 + Åä/ë < 41
Añïàðòàòàìèíîòðàíñôåðàçà (ÀÑÒ) 32.4 Åä/ë < 40
Áèëèðóáèí îáùèé 5.5ìêìîëü/ë < 24

Ñûâîðîòî÷íîå æåëåçî 24.8ìêìîëü/ë 5.8 - 34.5

Ãëèêèðîâàííûé ãåìîãëîáèí (HbA1c) 4.9 % 4.5 - 6.3

Êàëüöèé èîíèçèðîâàííûé 1.25 ììîëü/ë 1.12 - 1.30

Êàëüöèé îáùèé 2.40 ììîëü/ë 2.15 - 2.55
Ìàãíèé 0.90 ììîëü/ë 0.66 - 1.07
Ôîñôîð íåîðã 1.59 +ììîëü/ë 0.81 - 1.45
ÃÎÐÌÎÍÛ
6 Ò4 ñâîáîäíûé 05/02/2019 0.99 íã/äë 0.80 - 2.10 âûïîëíåíî
7 ÒÒà (Òèðîòðîïèí) 05/02/2019 2.620 ìêÌÅ/ìë 0.27-4.2 âûïîëíåíî
8 Òåñòîñòåðîí 9.820 ++ íã/ìë 2.49 - 8.36
9 ÀÊÒÃ (êîðòèêîòðîïèí) 147.3 ++ ïã/ìë
Ñìîòðè òåêñò

7.2-63.6;
Ïðè ñòðåññå - äî 100.0

10 Ïàðàòãîðìîí 28.9 ïã/ìë 15 - 65

ÂÈÒÀÌÈÍÛ

Âèòàìèí D ñóììàðíûé 18.1 -- íã/ìë
Ñìîòðè òåêñò

<10.0 íã/ìë - äåôèöèò
10.0 - 30.0 íã/ìë - íåäîñòàòîê
30.0 - 100.0 íã/ìë - íîðìà
>100.0 íã/ìë - âîçìîæåí òîêñè÷åñêèé ýôôåêò
ÃÎÐÌÎÍÛ
6 Ò4 ñâîáîäíûé 05/02/2019 0.99 íã/äë 0.80 - 2.10 âûïîëíåíî
7 ÒÒà (Òèðîòðîïèí) 05/02/2019 2.620 ìêÌÅ/ìë 0.27-4.2 âûïîëíåíî
8 Òåñòîñòåðîí 9.820 ++ íã/ìë 2.49 - 8.36
9 ÀÊÒÃ (êîðòèêîòðîïèí) 147.3 ++ ïã/ìë
Ñìîòðè òåêñò

7.2-63.6;
Ïðè ñòðåññå - äî 100.0

Ïàðàòãîðìîí 28.9 ïã/ìë 15 - 65

Êîðòèçîë 05/02/2019 930.60 ìêã/ñóò 380,00-940,00

Îáúåì ñóòî÷íîé ìî÷è 04/02/2019 1800 ìë


ÎÁÙÈÉ ÀÍÀËÈÇ ÊÐÎÂÈ
11 Ãåìîãëîáèí 165 ã/ë 132 - 173
12 Ýðèòðîöèòû 5.52 x10*12/ë 4.3 - 5.7
13 Ãåìàòîêðèò 48.3 % 39 - 49
14 Ñðåäíèé îáúåì ýðèòðîöèòîâ (MCV) 88 ôë 80 - 100 âûïîëíåíî
15 Ñðåäíåå ñîäåðæàíèå Hb â ýðèòðîöèòå (ÌÑÍ) 29.9 ïã 27 - 34
Ñðåäíÿÿ êîíöåíòðàöèÿ Hb â ýðèòðîöèòàõ (ÌÑÍÑ)342 ã/ë 300 - 380 âûïîëíåíî
17 Öâåòîâîé ïîêàçàòåëü 0.90 0.85 - 1.00
18 Òðîìáîöèòû 257 x10*9/ë 180 - 320
19 Ëåéêîöèòû 7.48 x10*9/ë 4.5 - 11.3
20 Íåçðåëûå ãðàíóëîöèòû 0.01 10*9/ë 0 - 0.09
21 Íåçðåëûå ãðàíóëîöèòû % 0.1 %

22 Íåéòðîôèëû ñåãìåíòîÿäåðíûå 0 3.81 x10*9/ë 1,60 - 7,90
23 Íåéòðîôèëû ñåãìåíòîÿäåðíûå % 50.9 % 47 - 72
24 Ýîçèíîôèëû 0.17 x10*9/ë 0.02 - 0.30
25 Ýîçèíîôèëû % 2.3 % 1 - 5
26 Áàçîôèëû 0.03 x10*9/ë 0 - 0.07
27 Áàçîôèëû % 0.4 % 0 - 1
28 Ìîíîöèòû 0.70 ++ x10*9/ë 0.09 - 0.60
29 Ìîíîöèòû % 9.4 % 3 - 11
30 Ëèìôîöèòû 2.77 x10*9/ë 1.20 - 3.00
31 Ëèìôîöèòû % 37.0 % 19 - 37
32 ÑÎÝ (ïî Âåñòåðãðåíó) 2 ìì/÷àñ 0 - 15
â îáùåì àíàëèçå áûëè ïîâûøåíû ìîíîöèòû ñ 2015 ã( ÿ ðàç â ïîëãîäà ÎÀÊ ñäàþ),òåðàïåâò ñêàçàë íå çàìîðà÷èâàòüñÿ.ß è íå îáðàùàë áîëüøå íà ýòî âíèìàíèÿ.



Çàðàíåå áëàãîäàðåí
Ñ óâàæåíèåì,Åâãåíèé
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ïîñîâåòóéòå ê êàêîìó âðà÷ó â ÝÍÖ ëó÷øå çàïèñàòüñÿ ñ ìîåé ïðîáëåìîé äëÿ ïîñòàíîâêè äèàãíîçà?

È ìîæåò ëè ïðåïàðàò ìåëäðîíàò,êîòîðûé ÿ ïüþ ïî íàçíà÷åíèþ íåâðîëîãà, ïîâëèÿòü íà ðåçóëüòàò ÀÊÒà ?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 05.02.2019, 22:05
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,211
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,600 ðàç(à) çà 32,674 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
À â ÷åì ïðîáëåìà, ÷òî èñêàëè ñòîëü îðèãèíàëüíûì íàáîðîì?
Åñëè ñèäåòü äîìà è áîëåòü,âðÿä ëè âèòàìèí D áóäåò ðàâåí òàêîâîìó ó ìîëîòîáîéöà, ðàáîòàþùåãî ëåòîì.
Êðîøå÷íîå îòñòóïëåíèå îò ðåôåðåíñà âèòàìèíèD - à îíûé íà÷èíàåòñÿ ñ 20 íè÷åì íåìóãðîæàíò è âîñïîëíÿåòñÿ êîïåéêàìè àêâàäåòðèìà èëè âèãàíòîëà.
Òî åñòü ïåðåä íàìè êðîøå÷íàÿ ïðîáëåìêà, íè÷åãî íå îáúÿñíÿþùàÿ è ëåãêî ïîïðàâèìàÿ
Êîðòèçîë ñóòî÷íîé ìî÷è íîðìàëåí, íè ìàëåéøèõ îñíîâàíèé ñìîòðåòü ÀÊÒà íå áûëî è â ïîìèíå.
Ëþáîé ýíäîêðèíîëîã îòäåëåíèÿ òåðàïèè â ÝÍÖ ïîìîæåò Âàøåìó âðà÷ó îðèåíòèðîâàòüñÿ â Âàøèõ ïðîáëåìàõ, íî ïî÷åìó íåâðîëîã, à íå ïñèõèàòð çàíèìàëñÿ ñ Âàìè?
Ïîïðîáóéòå ïîãîâîðèòü íà ôîðóìå ñ íàøèìè ïñèõèàòðàìè
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Ã.À. Ìåëüíè÷åíêî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 05.02.2019, 22:36
Evg0690 Evg0690 âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
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Ãàëèíà Àôàíàñüåâíà,äîáðûé âå÷åð!
ñïàñèáî,÷òî îòêëèêíóëèñü.
Èñêàëè ïðè÷èíó óñòàëîñòè,âðà÷ äàëà ñïèñîê àíàëèçîâ,ÿ èñïîëíèë.
Õî÷ó âñå òàêè ,÷òîáû ìåíÿ ïîñìîòðåëè â âàøåì öåíòðå.
È ïî âîçìîæíîñòè ïîäêîððåêòèðîâàëè ìîå çäîðîâüå.
Åñëè ìîæíî ïîðåêîìåíäóéòå äîêòîðà.
Ñ óâàæåíèåì,Åâãåíèé
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 05.02.2019, 22:38
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,211
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,600 ðàç(à) çà 32,674 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
À ÿ ðàçâå ìåøàþ?
Ïåðâðå âïå÷àòëåíèå - íå ñëèøêîì óäà÷íûé ïóòü âûáðàë äîêòîð è Âû èäåòå íå òîé òðîïîé.
Áóäåì íàäåÿòüñÿ, ÷òî Âàñ óäàñòñÿ ïîâåðíóòü â ïðàâèëüíîì íàïðàâëåíèè
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 12.02.2019, 15:33
Evg0690 Evg0690 âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 19
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Ãàëèíà Àôîíàñüåâíà,äîáðûé äåíü!
Ïîäñêàæèòå ïîæàëóéñòà â êàêîå îòäåëåíèå âàøåãî öåíòðà è ê êàêîìó âðà÷ó ýíäîêðèíîëîãó(õîòåëîñü áû âàøåé ðåêîìåíäàöèè) ñ ó÷åòîì ìîèõ íåäîìîãàíèé è ðåçóëüòàòîâ èññëåäîâàíèé îáðàòèòüñÿ?
(íà ñëåäóþùåé íåäåëå åñòü íåñêîëüêî äíåé îòãóëîâ)
Ñ óâàæåíèåì,Åâãåíèé
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 12.02.2019, 17:27
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,211
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,600 ðàç(à) çà 32,674 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ìû êîíñóëüòèðóåì â ÊÄÎ
ß ïî ïðåæíåìó íå äóìàþ, ÷òî ðå÷ü íà ñàìîì äåëå èäåò îá ýíäîêðèííîé ïàòîëîãèè, òåì íå ìåíåå ëó÷øå äëÿ Âàñ áóäåò îáñóäèòü ïðîáëåìó â êîëëåãàìè èç íåéðîýíäîêðèíîîãèè ( åìí ÏÈãàðîâà, äìí Äçåðàíîâà, êìí Ïðæèÿëêîâñêàÿ , äìí Ðîæèíñêàÿ, äìí Ìàðîâà, êìí Ãðåáåííèêîâà )
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Ñòàðûé 21.02.2019, 11:18
Evg0690 Evg0690 âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 05.02.2019
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 19
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 1
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1 ðàç çà 1 ñîîáùåíèå
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Çàïèñàëñÿ íà ïðèåì ê Ïðæèÿëêîâñêîé Å.Ã.,
ñäàë åùå àíàëèç íà ýëåêòðîëèòíûé îáìåí.
Êàëèé ïîâûøåí îêàçàëñÿ.
Êàëèé (K+) (ñûâîðîòêà êðîâè) 6.0 ++ ììîëü/ë 3.5 - 5.1
Íàòðèé (Na+) (ñûâîðîòêà êðîâè) 141.3 ììîëü/ë 136 - 145
Õëîðèäû 103 ììîëü/ë 98 - 106
Ôîñôîð íåîðãàíè÷åñêèé 1.32 ììîëü/ë 0.81 - 1.45

Äîêòîð ñåé÷àñ íà áîëüíè÷íîì,íàäåþñü,÷òî â ïîíåäåëüíèê âûéäåò.

À ïîêà õîòåë áû ïîëó÷èòü ñîâåò,â ñâÿçè ñ ïîâûøåííûì êàëèåì, ìíå íàäî ÷òî òî ïðåäïðèíèìàòü?
È ãîâîðèò ëè ýòî î ïàòîëîãèè ïî÷åê èëè íàäïî÷å÷íèêîâ ñ ó÷åòîì ìîèõ ñèìïòîìîâ?

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Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
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Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,211
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,600 ðàç(à) çà 32,674 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
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