Äèñêóññèîííûé Êëóá Ðóññêîãî Ìåäèöèíñêîãî Ñåðâåðà
MedNavigator.ru - Ïîèñê è ïîäáîð ëå÷åíèÿ â Ðîññèè è çà ðóáåæîì

Âåðíóòüñÿ   Äèñêóññèîííûé Êëóá Ðóññêîãî Ìåäèöèíñêîãî Ñåðâåðà > Ôîðóìû âðà÷åáíûõ êîíñóëüòàöèé > Êàðäèîëîãèÿ > Èíòåðâåíöèîííàÿ êàðäèîëîãèÿ è àíãèîëîãèÿ - ôîðóì äëÿ âðà÷åé

Îòâåò
 
Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
  #1  
Ñòàðûé 14.02.2011, 20:35
manaenkov manaenkov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.09.2008
Ãîðîä: Òàìáîâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 105
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 6
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 5 ðàç(à) çà 3 ñîîáùåíèé
manaenkov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò îòëè÷íóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ñòåíòèðîâàíèå èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûõ àðòåðèé

Óâàæàåìûå êîëëåãè! ×åì áîëüøå ìû ðàáîòàåì ñ íåâðîëîãàìè, òåì ÷àùå ñòàëè ñòàëêèâàòüñÿ ñ ñèìïòîìíûìè ñòåíîòè÷åñêèìè ïîðàæåíèÿìè èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûõ àðòåðèé.
Íà äàííûé ìîìåíò èìååì: 1 - êîðîòêèé 90% ñòåíîç ñåãìåíòà Ì1 - ñèôîí îðäèíàðíûé; 2 - êîðîòêèé 85% ñòåíîç êëèíîèäíîãî ñåãìåíòà ÂÑÀ ñëåâà(îôòàëüìèêà íå êîíòðàñòèðóåòñÿ, ÏÌÀ íå êîíòðàñòèðóåòñÿ èç áàññåéíà ëåâîé, à çàïîëíÿåòñÿ èç ïðàâîé ïî ÏÑÀ ñ ñåãìåíòîì À1, ÇÌÀ èç áàññåéíà ïîçâîíî÷íîé, ñèôîí äâîéíîé)
Íàøè íåáîãàòûå óìîçàêëþ÷åíèÿ ïîñëå ïðî÷òåíèÿ íåéðîðàäèîëîãèè, íî áåç îïûòà ñòåíòèðîâàíèÿ ÈÊÀ:
1. íàëè÷èå 85-90% ñòåíîçà è ÎÍÌÊ(ëàêóíàðíûå) â àíàìíåçå â áàññåéíå ñòåíîçèðîâàííîé àðòåðèè ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïîêàçàíèåì ê âìåøàòåëüñòó.
2. ñòåíòèðîâàíèå ÷åðåç 6 íåäåëü ïîñëå "ñîáûòèÿ"
3. ñòåíòèðîâàíèå êîðîíàðíûìè ñòåíòàìè - Des
4. 2-õ êîìïîíåíòíûå äåçàãðàãàíòû - íå ìåíåå 1 ìåñÿöà

È áîëüøîé âîïðîñ - êàêèå ñòåíòû ëó÷øå äîñòàâëÿþòñÿ è ïî êàêîìó ïðîâîäíèêó?

Ñïàñèáî!

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
yarter îäîáðèë(à): î÷åíü èíòåðåñíàÿ òåìà,äàâíî ïîðà îáñóäèòü:-)
Pankov îäîáðèë(à): Î÷åíü êðóòî, òîëüêî pls, íå ñòàâüòå êîðîíàðíûå, äëÿ ýòîãî åñòü Wingspan è äð. èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûå ñòåíòû. È ñàìèì ëó÷øå íå íà÷èíàòü, à ïðèãëàñèòü ýêñïåðòîâ, ïî ëþáîìó
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #2  
Ñòàðûé 14.02.2011, 21:12
Àâàòàð äëÿ shok
shok shok âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 02.11.2010
Ãîðîä: Rus.
Ñîîáùåíèé: 759
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 39
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 38 ðàç(à) çà 37 ñîîáùåíèé
shok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
èìõî:
ñóùåñòâóþò ñïåöèàëüíûå èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûå ñòåíòû, â ò.÷. è DES.
íåéðîðàäèîëîãèÿ - îñîáàÿ "òåìà", ìàíèïóëÿöèîííûõ íàâûêîâ, ñêàæåì, ïåðèôåðè÷åñêîãî è êîðîíàðíîãî ñòåíòèðîâàíèÿ - íå äîñòàòî÷íî... íåïëîõî áû çíàòü íåâðîëîãè÷åñêóþ òîïèêó, ì.á. "ïðîó÷èòüñÿ" íà íåéðîõèðóðãà...
è ïðîâîäíèêè - òîæå ñïåöèàëüíûå...
Âû íå ïîäóìàéòå, ÷òî ÿ îòãîâàðèâàþ, íî "òåìà" ñëîæíåå, ÷åì êàæåòñÿ. Âçâåñüòå âñå "çà" è "ïðîòèâ"...
âñå ÷èñòîå èìõî, êîíå÷íî...
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #3  
Ñòàðûé 15.02.2011, 10:29
Àâàòàð äëÿ thorn
thorn thorn âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Çàñëóæåííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 10.04.2003
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 782
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 15 ðàç(à) çà 15 ñîîáùåíèé
thorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò manaenkov Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Íàøè íåáîãàòûå óìîçàêëþ÷åíèÿ ïîñëå ïðî÷òåíèÿ íåéðîðàäèîëîãèè, íî áåç îïûòà ñòåíòèðîâàíèÿ ÈÊÀ:
1. íàëè÷èå 85-90% ñòåíîçà è ÎÍÌÊ(ëàêóíàðíûå) â àíàìíåçå â áàññåéíå ñòåíîçèðîâàííîé àðòåðèè ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïîêàçàíèåì ê âìåøàòåëüñòó.
2. ñòåíòèðîâàíèå ÷åðåç 6 íåäåëü ïîñëå "ñîáûòèÿ"
3. ñòåíòèðîâàíèå êîðîíàðíûìè ñòåíòàìè - Des
4. 2-õ êîìïîíåíòíûå äåçàãðàãàíòû - íå ìåíåå 1 ìåñÿöà
Íå ñëèøêîì ëè ðèñêîâàíî èñïîëüçîâàíèå êîðîíàðíûõ DES ó öåðåáðîâàñêóëÿðíûõ áîëüíûõ? Íå äóìàþ, ÷òî ðèñê ïîçäíåãî òðîìáîçà ñòåíòà ó íèõ äðóãîé, à âîò ðèñê êðîâîèçëèÿíèÿ íà ôîíå äëèòåëüíîé äâîéíîé òåðàïèè ÿâíî âûøå (MATCH). Íà ñêîëüêî ìåñÿöåâ Âû íàçíà÷èòå àñïèðèí + êëîïè?
...Âîîáùå, ìîæåò ëó÷øå äîæäàòüñÿ ðåçóëüòàòîâ [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]? Ñîâñåì íå î÷åâèäíî, ÷òî Wingspan îêàæåòñÿ ëó÷øå òàáëåòîê... Èïñèëàòåðàëüíûé èíñóëüò + ñìåðòü íà íåì ê 6 ìåñ - [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ] Ðåñòåíîç 25 - 30%. Ïðè òîì, ÷òî â WASID ÷àñòîòà èíñóëüòà òîëüêî "íà òàáëåòêàõ" 19% ïðè ñðåäíåì ïåðèîäå íàáëþäåíèÿ 1.8 ëåò...
Îòãîâàðèâàþ.

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
Pankov îäîáðèë(à): Ãëàâíàÿ ïðîáëåìà íå â àíòèàãðåãåíòàõ, à ðèñêå ñïàçìà, êîòîðûé áóäåò íà ïîðÿäîê áîëüøå ïðè èñïîëüçîâàíèè êîðîíàðíûõ ñòåíòîâ
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #4  
Ñòàðûé 15.02.2011, 16:43
Pankov Pankov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 08.03.2008
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 136
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 4
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 11 ðàç(à) çà 11 ñîîáùåíèé
Pankov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò îòëè÷íóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò thorn Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
...Âîîáùå, ìîæåò ëó÷øå äîæäàòüñÿ ðåçóëüòàòîâ [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]? Ñîâñåì íå î÷åâèäíî, ÷òî Wingspan îêàæåòñÿ ëó÷øå òàáëåòîê... Èïñèëàòåðàëüíûé èíñóëüò + ñìåðòü íà íåì ê 6 ìåñ - [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ] Ðåñòåíîç 25 - 30%. Ïðè òîì, ÷òî â WASID ÷àñòîòà èíñóëüòà òîëüêî "íà òàáëåòêàõ" 19% ïðè ñðåäíåì ïåðèîäå íàáëþäåíèÿ 1.8 ëåò...
Îòãîâàðèâàþ.
Êñòàòè, íà òåìó WASID:
In a multivariable model that was adjusted for age, gender, and race, the risk of stroke in the territory of the stenotic artery was highest with severe stenosis 70% (hazard ratio 2.00, 95% CI 1.25 to 3.19, P=0.0026) and in patients enrolled early (17 days) after the qualifying event (hazard ratio 1.72, 95% CI 1.07 to 2.78, P=0.026).
The WASID authors concluded that "these data indicate that intracranial stenosis is a high-risk disease for which alternative therapies are needed. Other options include aggressive management of risk factors, alternative antiplatelet regimens, and intracranial angioplasty or stenting. As yet, none of these treatments have been evaluated in a controlled clinical trial in patients with intracranial stenosis" (pp 1313–1314).

Ò.å. ðèñê èíñóëüòîâ è äð. ïðîáëåì â ãðóïïå ñ âûðàæåííûì ïîðàæåíèåì èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûõ ñåãìåíòîâ åùå âûøå, ÷åì ñðåäíèå 18% (òàì, êàæåòñÿ, 24% íàñ÷èòàëè). Èìåííî òàêèå áîëüíûå ïðåäñòàâëåíû òàìáîâñêèìè êîëëåãàìè. ÈÌÕÎ, ýíäîâàñêóëÿðíîå ëå÷åíèå â ýòîì ñëó÷àå èìååò ïðàâî íà ñóùåñòâîâàíèå (èëè õîòÿ áû íà ðàññìîòðåíèå).

Äà, ïî ãàéäàì 2009 ãîäà [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
êëàññ äîêàçàòåëüíîñòè èíòðàêðàíèàëüíîãî ñòåíòèðîâàíèÿ ïîêà òîëüêî IIb, íî ðàíüøå âñå ýòè âåùè âîîáùå íå ðàññìàòðèâàëèñü!

Endovascular revascularization by intravascular balloon angioplasty and/or stenting may be considered for patients with symptomatic severe intracranial stenoses (>70% luminal narrowing) despite optimal medical therapy (Class IIb, Level of Evidence C).

Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ïåðâûå ðåàëüíûå ðåçóëüòàòû SAMMPRIS áóäóò òîëüêî â àïðåëå, íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïîíèìàþ...èññëåäîâàíèå äîñòàòî÷íî âíóøèòåëüíîå, 50 öåíòðîâ, æäåì ñ íåòåðïåíèåì!  îáùåì, ìîæíî è ïîäîæäàòü ïàðó ìåñÿöåâ, ïðåæäå ÷åì Wingspan'û ñòàâèòü.
Ïîâòîðþñü, íóæíî íà÷èíàòü íå ñàìèì, à ñ ïîìîùüþ ýêñïåðòîâ. Åñòü îäèí ìèíóñ - ýêñïåðòû ÿâëÿþòñÿ èíòåðâåíöèîííûìè íåéðîõèðóðãàìè, è îáû÷íî íå î÷åíü ïðèâåòñòâóþò, åñëè èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûå âìåøàòåëüñòâà õîòÿò îñâîèòü, íàïðèìåð, êàðäèîëîãè. Ëó÷øå, êîíå÷íî, åñëè â Òàìáîâå ýòîìó ïðîó÷àò ÷åëîâåêà ñ îïûòîì ðàáîòû â îòêðûòîé íåéðîõèðóðãèè.

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
shok îäîáðèë(à): "íà÷èíàòü íå ñàìèì, à ñ ïîìîùüþ ýêñïåðòîâ" è "Ëó÷øå, êîíå÷íî, åñëè â Òàìáîâå ýòîìó ïðîó÷àò ÷åëîâåêà ñ îïûòîì ðàáîòû â îòêðûòîé íåéðîõèðóðãèè".
thorn îäîáðèë(à): " îáùåì, ìîæíî è ïîäîæäàòü ïàðó ìåñÿöåâ, ïðåæäå ÷åì Wingspan'û ñòàâèòü"
tourunov îäîáðèë(à):
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #5  
Ñòàðûé 15.02.2011, 18:16
manaenkov manaenkov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.09.2008
Ãîðîä: Òàìáîâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 105
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 6
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 5 ðàç(à) çà 3 ñîîáùåíèé
manaenkov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò îòëè÷íóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, æåëàþùèõ ðàáîòàòü â ðåíòãåíîïåðàöèîííîé íåò â ïðèíöèïå! .
Ñëûøàë ÷òî â Ïèòåðå Ðåáÿòà ñòåíòèðóþò êîðîíàðíûìè DES (x....v). Äàæå äîñòàâëÿþò â áàçèëÿðíóþ.
Åñòü ýë. Âåðñèÿ íåéðîðàäèîëîãèè, ãäå â ãëàâå ïðî ÈÊÑ òîæå ðåêîìåíäóþò DES íà áàëëîíå. Åñëè êîìó èíòåðåñíî, ìîãó îòïðàâèòü ïî email.
Ïðîñòî õîòåëîñü óçíàòü ÷òî-íèáóäü ïî ïîäðîáíåå ó òåõ êòî äåëàåò ÈÊÑ. Âåäü òàêèå ëþäè åñòü ó íàñ?
È ÷òî äåëàòü ñ ñèìïòîìíûìè áîëüøèìè ñòåíîçàìè? Æäàòü î÷åðåäíîãî (ïîñëåäíåãî) ÎÍÌÊ?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #6  
Ñòàðûé 15.02.2011, 18:22
Àâàòàð äëÿ thorn
thorn thorn âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Çàñëóæåííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 10.04.2003
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 782
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 15 ðàç(à) çà 15 ñîîáùåíèé
thorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Pankov Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Ò.å. ðèñê èíñóëüòîâ è äð. ïðîáëåì â ãðóïïå ñ âûðàæåííûì ïîðàæåíèåì èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûõ ñåãìåíòîâ åùå âûøå, ÷åì ñðåäíèå 18% (òàì, êàæåòñÿ, 24% íàñ÷èòàëè). Èìåííî òàêèå áîëüíûå ïðåäñòàâëåíû òàìáîâñêèìè êîëëåãàìè. ÈÌÕÎ, ýíäîâàñêóëÿðíîå ëå÷åíèå â ýòîì ñëó÷àå èìååò ïðàâî íà ñóùåñòâîâàíèå (èëè õîòÿ áû íà ðàññìîòðåíèå)
Äåéñòâèòåëüíî, èíîãäà öèòèðóþò 24.6%. Íèæå òàáëèöà èç [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
manaenkov îäîáðèë(à): Ñïàñèáî
Èçîáðàæåíèÿ
Òèï ôàéëà: jpg RISK.JPG (43.1 Êá, 259 ïðîñìîòðîâ)
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #7  
Ñòàðûé 15.02.2011, 18:45
Àâàòàð äëÿ thorn
thorn thorn âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Çàñëóæåííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 10.04.2003
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 782
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 15 ðàç(à) çà 15 ñîîáùåíèé
thorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåthorn ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò manaenkov Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
È ÷òî äåëàòü ñ ñèìïòîìíûìè áîëüøèìè ñòåíîçàìè? Æäàòü î÷åðåäíîãî (ïîñëåäíåãî) ÎÍÌÊ?
Ëå÷èòü... Èíòåðåñíî, ó ìíîãèõ èç òàêèõ áîëüíûõ Âàøè íåâðîëîãè äîáèëèñü ËÍÏ < 1.8 (70) è ñèñòîëè÷åñêîå ÀÄ < 140? Ó äèàáåòèêîâ HbA1c 6.5 - 7%?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #8  
Ñòàðûé 15.02.2011, 19:41
manaenkov manaenkov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.09.2008
Ãîðîä: Òàìáîâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 105
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 6
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 5 ðàç(à) çà 3 ñîîáùåíèé
manaenkov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò îòëè÷íóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Åñëè ÷åñòíî, ÿ äóìàþ, ÷òî àíãèîãðàôèþ îíè äåëàþò òîëüêî ðàäè îò÷¸òîâ.
Áóäåì ëå÷èòü...
Êàê òîëüêî ïîÿâèòñÿ ÷òî-òî íîâåíüêîå â ýòîé èñòîðèè, ñîîáùó.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #9  
Ñòàðûé 16.02.2011, 08:25
manaenkov manaenkov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.09.2008
Ãîðîä: Òàìáîâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 105
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 6
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 5 ðàç(à) çà 3 ñîîáùåíèé
manaenkov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò îòëè÷íóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Interventional
Neuroradiology
Stenting and Angioplasty for Intracranial
Atherosclerotic Occlusive Disease
Nabil M. Akkawi and Ajay K. Wakhloo
Division of Neuroimaging and Intervention, University of Massachusetts Medical School,
Worcester, Massachusetts, U.S.A.2008

Table 1 Inclusion Criteria for Intracranial Stenting
>50% stenosis of a major intracranial vessel and refractory to
medical treatment
Minimum vessel diameter of 2.0 mm
Previous stroke
TIA
Neurological symptoms referable to the target lesion
Presence of symptoms during the 6 mo prior to treatment
Acute vessel occlusion or dissection after PTA
Abbreviations: TIA, transient ischemic attack; PTA, percutaneous
transluminal angioplasty.
Table 2 Exclusion Criteria for Intracranial Stenting
Severe neurological deficit from stroke
Chronic total occlusion
History of intracranial hemorrhage, hemorrhagic
stroke, major stroke, or any stroke with mass effect within 6 wk
of procedure
Contraindication for or resistant to antiplatelet therapy
RESTENOSIS AFTER STENTING
Stents may induce myointimal hyperplasia and restenosis
(Fig. 5). The restenosis rate after stenting of ICD
is approximately 10% to 13%. However, recently presented
data from several centers showed that at 6- and
12-month follow-up angiography study, WingSpan
self-expanding stents may have an incidence of up
to 40% in-stent stenosis. To address these issues, stents
coated with antiproliferative agents have been developed
to reduce the in-stent stenosis and are being
considered for the neurovascular system (58).
Sirolimus (rapamycin), an antifungal agent, and paclitaxel,
a microtubule inhibitor, have shown to prevent
neointimal proliferation and restenosis in the coronary
vessels when compared with bare metal stents (59).
These clinical results provided the impetus to study
the effect of antiproliferative agents for the intracranial
system. Levy et al. studied the effects of heparincoated
and sirolimus-eluting stents, which were
implanted in canine basilar arteries (60,61). The
mean percentage of stenosis 12 weeks after implantation
was less (12%) in the group with heparin-coated
stents compared with 22% in the group with uncoated
devices. Compared with bare-metal stents, the
sirolimus-coated devices did not impair endothelialization
and, furthermore, tended to reduce the proliferation
of smooth muscle cells. However, currently no
single appropriate animal model exists for the study of
intracranial atherosclerotic disease and of the effects of
drug-eluting devices.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #10  
Ñòàðûé 16.02.2011, 23:09
Pankov Pankov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 08.03.2008
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 136
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 4
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 11 ðàç(à) çà 11 ñîîáùåíèé
Pankov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò îòëè÷íóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò manaenkov Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, æåëàþùèõ ðàáîòàòü â ðåíòãåíîïåðàöèîííîé íåò â ïðèíöèïå! .
Ñëûøàë ÷òî â Ïèòåðå Ðåáÿòà ñòåíòèðóþò êîðîíàðíûìè DES (x....v). Äàæå äîñòàâëÿþò â áàçèëÿðíóþ.
Åñòü ýë. Âåðñèÿ íåéðîðàäèîëîãèè, ãäå â ãëàâå ïðî ÈÊÑ òîæå ðåêîìåíäóþò DES íà áàëëîíå. Åñëè êîìó èíòåðåñíî, ìîãó îòïðàâèòü ïî email.
Ïðîñòî õîòåëîñü óçíàòü ÷òî-íèáóäü ïî ïîäðîáíåå ó òåõ êòî äåëàåò ÈÊÑ. Âåäü òàêèå ëþäè åñòü ó íàñ?
È ÷òî äåëàòü ñ ñèìïòîìíûìè áîëüøèìè ñòåíîçàìè? Æäàòü î÷åðåäíîãî (ïîñëåäíåãî) ÎÍÌÊ?
 áàçèëÿðíóþ êàê ðàç ïðîñòî äîñòàâèòü - îíà îáû÷íî øèðå, ÷åì Ì2, ñîãëàñèòåñü. Êîíå÷íî, êîðîíàðíûå ñòåíòû ñòàâèëè, è ïðîäîëæàþò ñòàâèòü â èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûå îòäåëû, íî ñåé÷àñ â öèâèëèçîâàííûõ ìåñòàõ ýòèì çàíèìàþòñÿ ðåäêî. ×àñòîòà óñïåøíîé äîñòàâêè êîðîíàðíûõ ñòåíòîâ â íóæíûé èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûé ñåãìåíò ñîñòàâëÿåò îêîëî 80%, à ñïåöèàëèçèðîâàííûõ òîíêîñòåííûõ ñàìîðàñêðûâàþùèõñÿ ñòåíòîâ - ñâûøå 95%. ×àñòîòà ñïàçìîâ è äèññåêöèé ïðè ïðîòàëêèâàíèè êîðîíàðíûõ ñòåíòîâ â èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûå îòäåëû òàêæå íåñðàâíåííî âûøå, à ïîñëåäñòâèÿ ýòèõ ñïàçìîâ ãîðàçäî ñåðüåçíåå, ÷åì â êîðîíàðíîì ðóñëå. Èç ñïåöèàëèçèðîâàííûõ äèâàéñîâ îäîáðåíèå FDA ïîëó÷èë òîëüêî WingSpan, íàñêîëüêî ÿ çíàþ. Ìîæåò áûòü, ýòîò ñòåíò ñêîðî ñòàíóò íàìàçûâàòü öèòîñòàòèêîì äëÿ ñíèæåíèÿ ðåñòåíîçîâ, è ýòî îêàæåòñÿ ñàìûì îïòèìàëüíûì âàðèàíòîì. Ïîêà ýòè îïåðàöèè ÿâëÿþòñÿ øòó÷íûìè äàæå íà Çàïàäå, íî âîçìîæíî, ïîñëå ðåçóëüòàòîâ SAMMPRIS ÷èñëî èõ ðåçêî ïîéäåò â ãîðó.
Ó íàñ â ñòðàíå, íàñêîëüêî ÿ ñëûøàë, ýòèì íåìíîãî çàíèìàþòñÿ â Áóðäåíêî è â ÍÈÈ Ïîëåíîâà, âðîäå íåñêîëüêî ñäåëàëè â ÍÈÈ íåâðîëîãèè, Êðàñíîäàðå è Ñòàâðîïîëå, íî òî÷íî íå çíàþ, âîçìîæíî, èìååòñÿ â âèäó ïðîñòî ñòåíò-àññèñòåíöèÿ ïðè ýìáîëèçàöèè àíåâðèçì (áîëåå ÷àñòàÿ ïðîöåäóðà). Äóìàþ, îáùåå ÷èñëî ñòåíòèðîâàíèé èìåííî ïðè èíòðàêðàíèàëüíîì àòåðîñêëåðîçå ó íàñ â ñòðàíå âðÿä ëè ïðåâûøàåò 20-30,êàê ýòî íè ïå÷àëüíî. Òåì íå ìåíåå, òàêèå áîëüíûå åñòü, è íàäî èìè çàíèìàòüñÿ. Âîïðîñ, êòî áóäåò èìè çàíèìàòüñÿ? ß äóìàþ, ÷òî ïðàâèëüíåå, åñëè õèðóðã èñõîäíî áóäåò èìåòü äîñòàòî÷íî ãëóáîêèå çíàíèÿ àíàòîìèè è ôèçèîëîãèè ÃÌ, à òàêæå íåâðîëîãèè, ÊÒ è ÌÐÒ. Îñëîæíåíèé òîãäà áóäåò ìåíüøå, à åñëè îíè áóäóò - ýòîò æå õèðóðã ñóìååò èõ èñïðàâèòü îòêðûòûì ïóòåì. Ìîæíî, êîíå÷íî, è êàðäèîëîãà ïîä ýòî ïåðåó÷èòü, íî çàíèìàòüñÿ íåéðîõèðóðãèåé è êàðäèîëîãèåé îäíîâðåìåííî î÷åíü òðóäíî. Ïîïðîáóéòå, âîçìîæíî ó âàñ ïîëó÷èòñÿ.
Ñ äðóãîé ñòîðîíû, ÿ ñàì íàáëþäàë, êàê äåëàþò èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûå âìåøàòåëüñòâà íåéðîõèðóðãè, èñõîäíî çàíèìàâøèåñÿ îòêðûòûìè îïåðàöèÿìè. Ó íåêîòîðûõ ÿâíî íå õâàòàëî áàçîâûõ êàòåòåðíûõ íàâûêîâ (íàïðèìåð, ïðîâåäåíèå ãàéäà èëè ïðîâîäíèêà ïî èçâèòûì àðòåðèÿì), è îíè òðàòèëè ìíîãî âðåìåíè íà î÷åâèäíûå äëÿ íàñ ñ âàìè âåùè.  îáùåì, ïàëêà î äâóõ êîíöàõ.
Íî äóìàþ, â èòîãå ýòî âñå-òàêè îòîéäåò ê íåéðîõèðóðãàì...è ýòî ïðàâèëüíî.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #11  
Ñòàðûé 19.02.2011, 12:34
Lev74 Lev74 âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 18.08.2010
Ãîðîä: Óôà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 97
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 23
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 7 ðàç(à) çà 7 ñîîáùåíèé
Lev74 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò îòëè÷íóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
 íîÿáðå â Ìîñêâå íà ñúåçäå ñîñóäèñòûõ õèðóðãîâ â èíñòèòóòå Âèøíåâñêîãî áûë äîêëàä èç ñàìàðû ïî ïîâîäó èíòðàêðàíèàëüíîãî ñòåíòèðîâàíèÿ èìåííî ñòåíîçîâ. Äîêëàäûâàë ïðîôåññîð Âà÷åâ. Ìàòåðèàë äîêòîðà Ñóõîðóêîâà (÷åëîâåê, êîòîðûé âûïîëíèë ïåðâóþ ýìáîëèçàöèþ öåðåáðàëüíîé àíåâðèçìû â 1998 (ïî ìîåìó...)). Ìàòåðèàë íåáîëüøîé (÷òî-òî îêîëî 12-15 ÷åëîâåê), ðåçóëüòàòû ñïîðíûå, íàáëþäåíèå íåäîëãîå. Âñå ñòåíòèðîâàíû êîðîíàðíûìè ñòåíòàìè, íî ïðîêñèìàëüíåå Âåëèçèåâà êðóãà. Áûëà î÷åíü êîðîòêàÿ äèñêóññèÿ î òîì ÷åì ñòåíòèðîâàòü, íî áåç îñîáîãî óñïåõà (è êîíôåðåíöèÿ íå ñïåöèàëüíàÿ è âðåìåíè íåáûëî).
Ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî ïðîêñèìàëüíåå Âåëèçèåâà êðóãà ìîæíî ñòåíòèðîâàòü è êîðîíàðíûìè ñòåíòàìè, ëó÷øå êîáàëüò-õðîì. äèñòàëüíåå âñå-òàêè ñïåöèàëüíûå ñàìîðàñøèðÿþùèåñÿ.
Ó ìåíÿ ñîçäàëîñü âïå÷àòëåíèå, ÷òî â îáëàñòè èíòðàêðàíèàëüíîãî ñòåíòèðîâàíèÿ ïðîèçâîäèòåëè ñíà÷àëà ñîçäàþò èíñòðóìåíò, à ïîòîì äóìàþò äëÿ ÷åãî åãî ìîæíî èñïîëüçîâàòü. Ïåðâûå èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûå ñòåíòû ïîçèöèîíèðîâàëèñü êàê äëÿ ðåìîäåëèðîâàíèÿ øèðîêèõ øååê (Leo, Enterpraise, Neuroform), ïîòîì ïîÿâèëñÿ ýëåêòðîëèòè÷åñêè îòäåëÿåìûé Solitare, êîòîðûé ðåøèëè âäðóã èñïîëüçîâàòü êàê ðåòðàêòîð òðîìáîâ (ñåé÷àñ åñòü êàêîé-òî èòàëüÿíñêèé àíàëîã Solitare òîò ïîçèöèîíèðóåòñÿ èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî êàê ðåòðàêòîð). Wingspan ñðàçó ïîçèöèîíèðîâàëñÿ êàê èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûé äëÿ ëå÷åíèÿ ñòåíîçîâ. ßêîáû ðàäèàëüíàÿ óñòîé÷èâîñòü âûñîêàÿ. À åñòü ãäå-íèáóäü ñðàâíåíèå ðàäèàëüíîé óñòîé÷èâîñòè èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûõ ñòåíòîâ ïðåäñòàâëåííûõ íà ðûíêå â Ðîññèè?
Åäèíñòâåííûé (ïî ìîåìó) áàëëîíîðàñøèðÿåìûé èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûé ñòåíò ýòî Phoros êîìïàíèè Micrus. Ñòàëüíîé ìàòðè÷íûé î÷åíü ìÿãêèé, êîíöû ïîçîëî÷åííûå äëÿ êîíòðàñòíîñòè. Íî íà ïðåçåíòàöèè ñëîæèëîñü âïå÷àòëåíèå, ÷òî ìåíåäæåðû íå äî êîíöà îñîçíàþò òàêèå ïîíÿòèÿ êàê íîìèíàëüíîå äàâëåíèå, ìåòàëëîíàñûùåííîñòü ñîñóäèñòîé ñòåíêè, ðàäèàëüíàÿ óñòîé÷èâîñòü è ò.ï. Ïðîñòî ñäåëàëè ïîçîëî÷åííóþ øòó÷êó, êîòîðàÿ êðàñèâî ðàñêðûâàåòñÿ â ñèëèêîíîâîì ñîñóäå. Micrus óçêîñïåöèàëèçèðîâàííàÿ êîìïàíèÿ, êîòîðà äåëàåò íåïëîõèå ñïèðàëè, íî â îòíîøåíèè ñòåíòà îíè ìåíÿ óäèâèëè...
Ñäåëàë ïÿòü èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûõ ñòåíòèðîâàíèé. Âñå ñ öåëüþ ðåìîäåëèðîâàíèÿ øåéêè àíåâðèçìû. Áåç êàêèõ ëèáî èøåìè÷åñêèõ îñëîæíåíèé. Îòäàëåííûõ ðåçóëüòàòîâ ïîêà íåò âñå â òå÷åíèå ãîäà. Èç ïîðÿäêà 700 öåðåáðàëüíûõ àíãèîãðàôèé âèäåë òîëüêî îäíîãî ïàöèåíòà ñ ìíîæåñòâåííûìè èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûìè ñòåíîçàìè, êîòîðûå ñîâîêóïíî äàâàëè ãåìîäèíàìè÷åñêóþ çíà÷èìîñòü, âìåøèâàòüñÿ íå ðåøèëñÿ, ñóäüáó ïàöèåíòà íå çíàþ. Åùå îêîëî 8 ïàöèåíòîâ èìåëè îäíîñòîðîííèå çíà÷èìûå ñòåíîçû èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûõ àðòåðèé ïðîêñèìàëüíåå Âåëèçèåâà êðóãà. Çíà÷èìîñòü êîìïåíñèðîâàëàñü çà âñ÷åò ïåðåòîêîâ ñ äðóãîé ñòîðîíû, ýíäîâàñêóëÿðíî íå âìåøèâàëèñü.
Êà÷åñòâî ýíäîâàñêóëÿðíûõ îïåðàöèé çàâèñèò îò ìàíóàëüíûõ íàâûêîâ è ïðàâèëüíîãî âûáîðà èíñòðåìåíòà. Îò òîãî ãäå âìåøèâàåøüñÿ íà ìîçãå, íà ñåðäöå, íà ñåìåííîé âåíå èëè íà ñîñóäàõ íèæíåé êîíå÷íîñòè çàâèñèò òîëüêî öåíà îøèáêè è îòâåòñòâåííîñòü. ß íå ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî íåéðîõèðóðãè áîëåå îòâåòñòâåííûå ÷åì èíòåðâåíöèîííûå ðàäèîëîãè... Èíòåðâåíöèîííîãî êàðäèîëîãà íàó÷èòü ýíäîâàñêóëÿðíî ðàáîòàòü íà èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûõ àðòåðèÿõ íàìíîãî ïðîùå è áûñòðåå ÷åì "îòêðûòîãî" íåéðîõèðóðãà. Çäåñü íóæåí òåñíûé òàíäåì, êàê ñ ãèíåêîëîãàìè ïðè ëå÷åíèè ìèîì. Ïîêàçàíèÿ âûñòàâëÿþò íåéðîõèðóðãè ìû îöåíèâàåì òåõíè÷åñêóþ âîçìîæíîñòü, âåðîÿòíûé óñïåõ, âåðîÿòíîñòü îñëîæíåíèé è äåëàåì...
Ñ íàèëó÷øèìè ïîæåëàíèÿìè, Ëåâ.

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
yarter îäîáðèë(à):
mizin1 îäîáðèë(à): î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî. ïîñëåäíèé àáçàö ïîääåðæèâàþ.
audovichenko îäîáðèë(à):
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #12  
Ñòàðûé 23.02.2011, 20:34
Proxor Proxor âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 03.05.2008
Ãîðîä: ã. Õàíòû-Ìàíñèéñê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 90
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 3
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 13 ðàç(à) çà 12 ñîîáùåíèé
Proxor ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò îòëè÷íóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò manaenkov Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, æåëàþùèõ ðàáîòàòü â ðåíòãåíîïåðàöèîííîé íåò â ïðèíöèïå! .
Ñëûøàë ÷òî â Ïèòåðå Ðåáÿòà ñòåíòèðóþò êîðîíàðíûìè DES (x....v). Äàæå äîñòàâëÿþò â áàçèëÿðíóþ.
Åñòü ýë. Âåðñèÿ íåéðîðàäèîëîãèè, ãäå â ãëàâå ïðî ÈÊÑ òîæå ðåêîìåíäóþò DES íà áàëëîíå. Åñëè êîìó èíòåðåñíî, ìîãó îòïðàâèòü ïî email.
Ïðîñòî õîòåëîñü óçíàòü ÷òî-íèáóäü ïî ïîäðîáíåå ó òåõ êòî äåëàåò ÈÊÑ. Âåäü òàêèå ëþäè åñòü ó íàñ?
È ÷òî äåëàòü ñ ñèìïòîìíûìè áîëüøèìè ñòåíîçàìè? Æäàòü î÷åðåäíîãî (ïîñëåäíåãî) ÎÍÌÊ?
Âîò íà ìîé âçãëÿä èíòåðåñíàÿ ñòàòüÿ ïî òåìå,

From Medscape Medical News > Neurology
Intracranial Angioplasty and Stenting Triple Hospital Costs

Allison Gandey

Ïîñëå ðåãèñòðàöèè íà ðåñóðñå [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ] îíà äîñòóïíà.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #13  
Ñòàðûé 22.04.2011, 21:39
gaider gaider âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 20.04.2011
Ãîðîä: Còàâðîïîëü
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2
gaider *
 Ñòàâðîïîëå ñòåíòèðîâàíèé èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûõ àðòåðèé íå âûïîëíÿëîñü (ñòåíò-àññèñòåíöèÿ ïðè àíåâðèçìàõ íå ðàññìàòðèâàåòñÿ). Äâóì ïàöèåòàì âûïîíèëè ñòåíòèðîâàíèå ãðàôòîì ïðè àíåâðèçìàõ êàâåðíîçíîãî ñåãìåòà ÂÑÀ, îíîìó èç íèõ óæå âûïëíèëè êîíòðîëü ÷åðåç 6 ìåñ.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #14  
Ñòàðûé 23.04.2011, 23:49
Àâàòàð äëÿ MKMED
MKMED MKMED âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Êàíäèäàò â âåòåðàíû ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 05.05.2006
Ãîðîä: Óôà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1,530
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 467 ðàç(à) çà 458 ñîîáùåíèé
MKMED ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMKMED ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMKMED ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMKMED ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMKMED ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMKMED ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Åñëè êîðîòêî:

Öèòàòà:
Stroke. 2009 May;40(5):e340-7. Epub 2009 Jan 29.
A systematic review on outcome after stenting for intracranial atherosclerosis.
Gröschel K, Schnaudigel S, Pilgram SM, Wasser K, Kastrup A.
SourceDepartment of Neurology, University of Göttingen, Göttingen, Germany.

Abstract
BACKGROUND AND PURPOSE: Angioplasty and stenting is increasingly being used for the treatment of intracranial stenoses. Based on a literature search (01/1998 to 04/2008) we sought to determine the immediate and long-term outcomes, as well as the durability of this procedure.

SUMMARY OF REVIEW: We identified 31 studies dealing with 1177 procedures, which had mainly been performed in patients with a symptomatic (98%) intracranial high-grade stenosis (mean: 78+/-7%) at high technical success rates (median: 96%; interquartile range [IQR]: 90% to 100%). The periprocedural minor or major stroke and death rates ranged from 0% to 50% with a median of 7.7% (IQR: 4.4% to 14.3%). Periprocedural complications were significantly higher in the posterior versus the anterior circulation (12.1%, versus 6.6%, P<0.01, odds ratio [OR]: 1.94, 95% confidence interval [CI]: 1.21 to 3.10), but did not differ between patients treated with a balloon-mounted (n=906) versus those who had been treated with a self-expandable stent (n=271; 9.5% versus 7.7%, P=0.47, OR: 1.15, CI:0.76 to 2.05). Restenosis >50% occurred more frequently after the use of a self-expandable stent (16/92; 17.4%, mean follow-up time: 5.4 months) than a balloon-mounted stent (61/443; 13.8%, mean follow-up time: 8.7 months; P<0.001, log-rank test).

CONCLUSIONS: Although intracranial stenting appears to be feasible, adverse events vary widely. Against the background of the results of this review yielding a high rate of restenoses and no clear impact of new stent devices on outcome, the widespread application of intracranial stenting outside the setting of randomized trials and in inexperienced centers currently does not seem to be justified.
Òî, ÷òî ïå÷àòàëîñü ïîñëå - òîæå íå ñèëüíî èçìåíèëî íàñòðîè.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #15  
Ñòàðûé 04.05.2011, 10:18
Àâàòàð äëÿ FRSM
 FRSM  FRSM âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 12.06.2007
Ãîðîä: Airstrip One
Ñîîáùåíèé: 4,766
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 697 ðàç(à) çà 672 ñîîáùåíèé
FRSM ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåFRSM ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåFRSM ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåFRSM ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåFRSM ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåFRSM ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåFRSM ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåFRSM ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåFRSM ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåFRSM ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåFRSM ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Citation(s):

The National Institutes of Health. Clinical Alert: Angioplasty combined with stenting plus aggressive medical therapy vs. aggressive medical therapy alone for intracranial arterial stenosis. NINDS stops trial enrollment due to a higher risk of stroke and death in the stented group. Apr 11 , 2011.
([Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]



SAMMPRIS Trial Halted

Newly released data suggest that intensive medical management alone is better than angioplasty plus stenting in patients with recently symptomatic, high-grade intracranial arterial stenosis.



Patients with symptomatic, severe narrowing of the major intracranial arteries (70%–99% stenosis) have a 25% risk for recurrent stroke within 2 years, despite standard medical therapy with warfarin or aspirin (Circulation 2006; 113:555). In the NIH-sponsored Stenting and Aggressive Medical Management for Preventing Recurrent stroke in Intracranial Stenosis (SAMMPRIS) trial, researchers randomized such high-risk patients to receive angioplasty plus stenting (and aggressive medical management) or to receive aggressive medical management alone. All participants had experienced a transient ischemic attack or nondisabling stroke within the previous 30 days.

The Gateway-Wingspan system was used for angioplasty plus stenting. Aggressive medical management comprised daily dual antiplatelet therapy (325-mg aspirin plus 75-mg clopidogrel) for 90 days, followed by aspirin monotherapy (325 mg/day) for the remainder of the study. All patients also received guideline-recommended blood pressure and cholesterol-lowering therapies and were put on a comprehensive lifestyle-modification program.

The trial was halted after enrollment of 451 (59%) of the planned 764 participants. An interim review by the trial's Data Safety and Monitoring Board revealed that, within 30 days after enrollment, the rate of stroke or death was higher in the stenting group (14.0%) than in the group who received medical therapy alone (5.8%), higher than in previous studies in which similar subjects had received standard medical treatment, and higher than in relevant registry-comparison groups. All five documented stroke-related deaths within 30 days after enrollment in SAMMPRIS occurred in the stenting group.

Comment: Fewer than half of the SAMMPRIS participants have been followed for 1 year, so further data gathering and analysis are required before the findings can be understood in full context. Nonetheless, given these results, angioplasty plus stenting is not the preferred treatment option for patients like those in this trial. These initial results underscore the value of timely, intensive, multimodal risk-factor management, especially given the vagaries of real-world poststroke hospital care and inadequate adherence to appropriate medical therapy (Stroke 2008; 39:1850). Intracranial stenting might still have a very limited role in patients with severe intracranial arterial stenosis who are frequently symptomatic, have extremely poor cerebrovascular reserve, and have failed optimal medical treatment.

Journal Watch Neurology May 3, 2011

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
Pankov îäîáðèë(à): Âîò îíî êàê, Ìèõàëû÷...
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
Îòâåò



Âàøè ïðàâà â ðàçäåëå
Âû íå ìîæåòå ñîçäàâàòü òåìû
Âû íå ìîæåòå îòâå÷àòü íà ñîîáùåíèÿ
Âû íå ìîæåòå ïðèêðåïëÿòü ôàéëû
Âû íå ìîæåòå ðåäàêòèðîâàòü ñîîáùåíèÿ

BB êîäû Âêë.
Ñìàéëû Âêë.
[IMG] êîä Âêë.
HTML êîä Âûêë.



×àñîâîé ïîÿñ GMT +3, âðåìÿ: 11:10.




Ðàáîòàåò íà vBulletin® âåðñèÿ 3.
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.