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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
  #16  
Ñòàðûé 01.05.2024, 11:52
ik1703 ik1703 âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 12.01.2020
Ãîðîä: Ìåëüáóðí, Àâñòðàëèÿ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 95
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 5
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1 ðàç çà 1 ñîîáùåíèå
ik1703 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê ïîëîæèòåëüíî õàðàêòåðèçóåòñÿ íà ôîðóìå
Äîáðûé äåíü, óâàæàåìûå ñïåöèàëèñòû.
Äâà äíÿ íàçàä ïåðåñäàâàë àíàëèçû ïîñëå 2õ ìåñÿöåâ ïðèåìà ËÒèðîêñèíà. Ñîñòîÿíèå ìîå íà äàííûé ìîìåíò î÷åíü íåõîðîøåå - óñòàëîñòü, ñîíëèâîñòü, áîëè â ñóñòàâàì, ìûøöàõ - íè÷åãî íå ïðîøëî, à äàæå óñèëèëîñü. Îäíàêî àíàëèçû ïîêàçàëè ÷òî ÒÒã ïðèøëî â íîðìó, àëò è àñò ïðèøëè â íîðìó òîæå, âñå àíàëèçû ïðèêëàäûâàþ. Àíàëèç àíòèòåë ùèòîâèäêèèïîêàçàë ÷òî ó ìåíÿ çàáîëåâàíèå Õàøèìîòî, òàê ñêàçàë ìîé GP. ×òî ñ ýòèì äåëàòü è êàê ëå÷èòü íå ïîíÿë. Îí ñêàçàë ïðèíèìàòü äàëüøå Ëòèðîêñèí 50, à ÷åðåç äåíü Ëòèðîêñèí 75. Ñîñòîÿíèå óæàñíîå. Íî íå çíàþ ñâÿçàíî ëè ýòî äî ñèõ ïîð ñ ùèòîâèäíîé æåëåçîé.
Åäèíñòâåííîå, ÿ ÷åñòíî çàáûë ïîïðîñèòü àíàëèç íà êîðòèçîë ((
Êàêîé ïëàí ìîåé äàëüíåéøåé òåðàïèè? Ñïàñèáî îãðîìíîå.
Ìèíèàòþðû
Íàæìèòå íà èçîáðàæåíèå äëÿ óâåëè÷åíèÿ
Íàçâàíèå: IMG_6227.jpeg
Ïðîñìîòðîâ: 6
Ðàçìåð:	701.7 Êá
ID:	254442  Íàæìèòå íà èçîáðàæåíèå äëÿ óâåëè÷åíèÿ
Íàçâàíèå: IMG_6228.jpeg
Ïðîñìîòðîâ: 5
Ðàçìåð:	436.1 Êá
ID:	254443  Íàæìèòå íà èçîáðàæåíèå äëÿ óâåëè÷åíèÿ
Íàçâàíèå: IMG_6229.jpeg
Ïðîñìîòðîâ: 5
Ðàçìåð:	323.9 Êá
ID:	254444  
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #17  
Ñòàðûé 01.05.2024, 17:17
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,402
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,666 ðàç(à) çà 32,740 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Àóòîèììóííûé òèðåîèäèò- îí æå òèðåîèäèò Õàøèìîòî- ñàìàÿ ÷àñòàÿ ïðè÷èíà ïåðâè÷íîãî ãèïîòèðåîçà, ýòî GP cêàçàë?
Áåññïîðíî, óæàñíîå ñîñòîÿíèå íèêàê íå ñâÿçàíî ñ ïàòîëîãèåé ùèòîâèäíîé æåëåçû
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Ã.À. Ìåëüíè÷åíêî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #18  
Ñòàðûé 01.05.2024, 17:32
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,725
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,397 ðàç(à) çà 31,742 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
îáøèé àíàëèç êðîâè èìååòñÿ?

ïðè àóòîèììóííîì ãèïîòèðîçå èìååòñÿ 27% ðèñê äåôèöèòà âèòàìèíà Â12 èç-çà íàëè÷èÿ àíòèïàðèåòàëüíûõ àíòèòåë ( àóòîèìóííûé àòðîôè÷åñêèé ãàñòðèò), îí ìîæåò äàâàòü ïîõîæóþ ñèìïòîìàòèêó è ìàñêèðîâàòü äåôèöèò æåëåçà ÷åðåç ïîâûøåíèå ôåððèòèíà è ñûâîð. æåëåçà:

The frequency of vitamin B12 deficiency in patients with hypothyroidism was 27.0%

frequency of vitamin B12 deficiency in subclinical hypothyroidism was 27.0%

Anti-parietal cell antibodies and autoimmune thyroid disease to be present in 27.0%

Vitamin B12 levels in thyroid disorders: A systematic review and meta-analysis 2023
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Èñêðåííå,
Âàäèì Âàëåðüåâè÷.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #19  
Ñòàðûé 01.05.2024, 19:01
ik1703 ik1703 âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 12.01.2020
Ãîðîä: Ìåëüáóðí, Àâñòðàëèÿ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 95
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 5
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1 ðàç çà 1 ñîîáùåíèå
ik1703 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê ïîëîæèòåëüíî õàðàêòåðèçóåòñÿ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Melnichenko Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Àóòîèììóííûé òèðåîèäèò- îí æå òèðåîèäèò Õàøèìîòî- ñàìàÿ ÷àñòàÿ ïðè÷èíà ïåðâè÷íîãî ãèïîòèðåîçà, ýòî GP cêàçàë?
Áåññïîðíî, óæàñíîå ñîñòîÿíèå íèêàê íå ñâÿçàíî ñ ïàòîëîãèåé ùèòîâèäíîé æåëåçû
Ñïàñèáî. Äà, òàê âðà÷ ñôîðìóëèðîâàë îòâåò.
Ïî ùèòîâèäíîé æåëåçå ó÷èòûâàÿ äèíàìèêó òåðàïèÿ îñòàåòñÿ ïðîñòî Ëòèðîêñèí 50? Èëè êàê ñêàçàë gp ÷åðåäîâàòü 50/75 ÷åðåç äåíü? Æèòü â ñâîè 35 áóäó äàëüøå? 😀

Öèòàòà:
îáøèé àíàëèç êðîâè èìååòñÿ?
Èìååòñÿ. Ïîñòàðàþñü âûëîæèòü ëèáî ÷åðåç ïàðó ÷àñîâ. Ëèáî óæå â íà÷àëå ñëåäóþùåé íåäåëå.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #20  
Ñòàðûé 01.05.2024, 19:16
ik1703 ik1703 âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 12.01.2020
Ãîðîä: Ìåëüáóðí, Àâñòðàëèÿ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 95
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 5
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1 ðàç çà 1 ñîîáùåíèå
ik1703 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê ïîëîæèòåëüíî õàðàêòåðèçóåòñÿ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Dr.Vad Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
îáøèé àíàëèç êðîâè èìååòñÿ?

ïðè àóòîèììóííîì ãèïîòèðîçå èìååòñÿ 27% ðèñê äåôèöèòà âèòàìèíà Â12 èç-çà íàëè÷èÿ àíòèïàðèåòàëüíûõ àíòèòåë ( àóòîèìóííûé àòðîôè÷åñêèé ãàñòðèò), îí ìîæåò äàâàòü ïîõîæóþ ñèìïòîìàòèêó è ìàñêèðîâàòü äåôèöèò æåëåçà ÷åðåç ïîâûøåíèå ôåððèòèíà è ñûâîð. æåëåçà:

The frequency of vitamin B12 deficiency in patients with hypothyroidism was 27.0%

frequency of vitamin B12 deficiency in subclinical hypothyroidism was 27.0%

Anti-parietal cell antibodies and autoimmune thyroid disease to be present in 27.0%

Vitamin B12 levels in thyroid disorders: A systematic review and meta-analysis 2023
Âîò âñå ÷òî åñòü íà äàííûé ìîìåíò. Àíàëèç îò íà÷àëà ìàðòà äî íà÷àëà ïðèåìà Ëòèðîêñèíà.
Ìèíèàòþðû
Íàæìèòå íà èçîáðàæåíèå äëÿ óâåëè÷åíèÿ
Íàçâàíèå: IMG_6232.jpeg
Ïðîñìîòðîâ: 3
Ðàçìåð:	1.06 Ìá
ID:	254448  Íàæìèòå íà èçîáðàæåíèå äëÿ óâåëè÷åíèÿ
Íàçâàíèå: IMG_6233.jpeg
Ïðîñìîòðîâ: 3
Ðàçìåð:	558.6 Êá
ID:	254449  Íàæìèòå íà èçîáðàæåíèå äëÿ óâåëè÷åíèÿ
Íàçâàíèå: IMG_6234.jpeg
Ïðîñìîòðîâ: 2
Ðàçìåð:	740.6 Êá
ID:	254450  
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #21  
Ñòàðûé 01.05.2024, 19:25
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,402
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,666 ðàç(à) çà 32,740 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò ik1703 Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Ñïàñèáî. Äà, òàê âðà÷ ñôîðìóëèðîâàë îòâåò.
Ïî ùèòîâèäíîé æåëåçå ó÷èòûâàÿ äèíàìèêó òåðàïèÿ îñòàåòñÿ ïðîñòî Ëòèðîêñèí 50? Èëè êàê ñêàçàë gp ÷åðåäîâàòü 50/75 ÷åðåç äåíü? Æèòü â ñâîè 35 áóäó äàëüøå? 😀


Èìååòñÿ. Ïîñòàðàþñü âûëîæèòü ëèáî ÷åðåç ïàðó ÷àñîâ. Ëèáî óæå â íà÷àëå ñëåäóþùåé íåäåëå.
Æèçíè Âàøåé ïåðâè÷íûé ãèïîòèðåîç íèêàê íå ïîìåùàåò, è æèòü ìîãëè áû ïðåêðàñíî- íå áóäü ó Âàñ òðåâîæíûõ è èïîõîíäðè÷åñêèõ ðàññòðîéñòâ
Îá îïòèìàëüíîé äîçå ïîìîãàåò óçíàòü ÒÒÃ
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Ã.À. Ìåëüíè÷åíêî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #22  
Ñòàðûé 01.05.2024, 19:36
ik1703 ik1703 âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 12.01.2020
Ãîðîä: Ìåëüáóðí, Àâñòðàëèÿ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 95
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 5
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1 ðàç çà 1 ñîîáùåíèå
ik1703 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê ïîëîæèòåëüíî õàðàêòåðèçóåòñÿ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Melnichenko Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Æèçíè Âàøåé ïåðâè÷íûé ãèïîòèðåîç íèêàê íå ïîìåùàåò, è æèòü ìîãëè áû ïðåêðàñíî- íå áóäü ó Âàñ òðåâîæíûõ è èïîõîíäðè÷åñêèõ ðàññòðîéñòâ
Îá îïòèìàëüíîé äîçå ïîìîãàåò óçíàòü ÒÒÃ
ß ïðîñòî íè÷åãî íå ìîãó ïîäåëàòü, áîëè è ñîíëèâîñòü ìåøàþò ïîëíîöåííî æèòü. Íà÷àëîñü åùå êîãäà ÿ áûë íà ýñöèòàëîïðàìå ïðîâîäÿ àíòèòðåâîæíóþ òåðàïèþ.
Ëàäíî, ïðîäîëæàþ äàëüøå ïðèíèìàòü Ëòèðîêñèí.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #23  
Ñòàðûé 01.05.2024, 19:57
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,725
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,397 ðàç(à) çà 31,742 ñîîáùåíèé
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äåôèöèòà â12 íåò, ìîæåò áûòü íåäîñòàòîê, íî áåç ãîìîöèñòåèíà èëè ìåòèë-ìàëîíàòà åãî íå âèäíî; ãåìîãëîáèí ó íóæíåé ãðàíèöû íîðìû âðîñëîãî ìóæ÷èíû 140-175, è åñëè âàø ãåìîãëîáèí äîëæåí áûòü â íîðìå 150-155 êàê ó áîëüøèíñòâà çäîðîâûõ ìóæ÷èí, ãåìîãëîáèí 142 ìîæåò âàìè îøóøàòüñÿ êàê àíåìè÷íûé
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