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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
  #91  
Ñòàðûé 16.11.2010, 21:56
Àâàòàð äëÿ shok
shok shok âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 02.11.2010
Ãîðîä: Rus.
Ñîîáùåíèé: 759
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 39
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 38 ðàç(à) çà 37 ñîîáùåíèé
shok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Abugov Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Êñòàòè, â PCI-CURE è CREDO áûëî îòìå÷åíî ïîëîæèòåëüíîå âëèÿíèå Ïëàâèêñà èìåííî íà ðåñòåíîç.
Áóäó çíàòü! Ñïàñèáî.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #92  
Ñòàðûé 17.11.2010, 23:51
Yariko Yariko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 07.07.2008
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,871
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 16
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,141 ðàç(à) çà 2,050 ñîîáùåíèé
Yariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
â ïðîäîëæåíèè òåìû êîìïëàåíòíîñòè ïàöèåíòîâ, [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
Öèòàòà:
Patients frequently identified communication and education (e.g. unaware they should be taking clopidogrel, unaware of intended duration of therapy) as the primary reasons for having stopped. Patients rarely cited cost, while clinicians most commonly cited cost as a reason for premature stopping.
Öèòàòà:
Circulation. 2010 Sep 7;122(10):1017-25. Epub 2010 Aug 23.

Background, incidence, and predictors of antiplatelet therapy discontinuation during the first year after drug-eluting stent implantation.
Ferreira-González I, Marsal JR, Ribera A, Permanyer-Miralda G, García-Del Blanco B, Martí G, Cascant P, Martín-Yuste V, Brugaletta S, Sabaté M, Alfonso F, Capote ML, De La Torre JM, Ruíz-Lera M, Sanmiguel D, Cárdenas M, Pujol B, Baz JA, Iñiguez A, Trillo R, González-Béjar O, Casanova J, Sánchez-Gila J, García-Dorado D.

Epidemiology Unit, Cardiology Department, University Hospital Vall d'Hebron, Paseo Vall d'Hebron 119-129, Barcelona 08035, Spain. [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]

Comment in:

Circulation. 2010 Sep 7;122(10):946-8.

Abstract
BACKGROUND: Predictors of antiplatelet therapy discontinuation (ATD) during the first year after drug-eluting stent implantation are poorly known.

METHODS AND RESULTS: This was a prospective study with 3-, 6-, 9-, and 12-month follow-up of patients receiving at least 1 drug-eluting stent between January and April 2008 in 29 hospitals. Individual- and hospital-level predictors of ATD were assessed by hierarchical-multinomial regression analysis. ATD could be assessed in 1622 candidates for follow-up (82.5%). A total of 234 patients (14.4%) interrupted at least 1 antiplatelet therapy drug, predominantly clopidogrel (n=182, 11.8%). Bleeding events or invasive procedures led to ATD in 109 patients. This was predicted by renal impairment (odds ratio [OR] 2.81, 95% confidence interval [CI] 1.48 to 5.34), prior major hemorrhage (OR 3.77, 95% CI 1.41 to 10.03), and peripheral arterial disease (OR 1.78, 95% CI 1.01 to 3.15). Medical decisions led to ATD in 70 patients; this was predicted by long-term use of anticoagulant therapy (OR 3.88, 95% CI 1.26 to 11.98), undergoing the procedure in a private hospital (OR 13.3, 95% CI 1.69 to 105), and not receiving instructions about medication (OR 2.8, 95% CI 1.23 to 6.36). Thirty-nine patients interrupted ATD on their own initiative, mainly immigrants (OR 3.78, 95% CI 1.2 to 11.98) and consumers of psychotropic drugs (OR 2.58, 95% CI 1.3 to 5.12).

CONCLUSIONS: ATD during the first year after drug-eluting stent implantation is based mainly on patient decision or a medical decision not associated with major bleeding events or major surgical procedures. Individual- and hospital-level variables are important to predict ATD
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
Öèòàòà:
Use of evidence-based medicine (EBM) improves outcomes after acute coronary syndromes (ACS), yet patients often discontinue prescribed therapies after discharge. Although such discontinuation is well documented, patients’ reasons for medication discontinuation have not been reported. MAINTAIN is a longitudinal follow-up registry of CRUSADE/ ACTION, which enrolled patients during an ACS hospitalization from January 2006 to
September 2007. All discharge medications were obtained from hospital charts. Patients were interviewed by telephone 3 months after discharge to determine if EBM classes prescribed at discharge were continued (aspirin, clopidogrel,  blockers, angiotensin converting enzyme inhibitors/angiotensin receptor blockers, and lipid-lowering medications). If discontinuation occurred, patients were asked if it was with provider knowledge/
input or not (self-discontinuation). A multivariable logistic regression model was performed to identify factors associated with self-discontinuation of prescribed EBM. Of the 1,077 patients interviewed, 1,006 (93.4%) were discharged on aspirin, 816 (75.8%) on clopidogrel, 982 (91.2%) on beta-blockers, 745 (69.2%) on angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitors/ angiotensin receptor blockers, and 968 (89.9%) on lipid-lowering medications. At 3-month follow-up, 304 patients (28.2%) had discontinued >1 of these prescribed EBM classes. Although many reported provider involvement, most discontinuation (61.5%) was self-determined.
Factors independently associated with self-discontinuation were no pharmacy coinsurance, increasing number of medications, not using reminder tools (e.g., pillbox), lower education, and dialysis
In conclusion, 1/3 of patients with ACS discontinue >1 of their prescribed EBMs within 3 months of hospital discharge[/b], and most of this discontinuation is without provider involvement. Patient education, better prescription drug coverage, and reminder strategies may improve use of EBMs at 3 months after discharge from ACS admission.
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #93  
Ñòàðûé 18.11.2010, 00:10
Àâàòàð äëÿ angio
angio angio âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.04.2010
Ãîðîä: Ïåòðîçàâîäñê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 949
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 36
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 115 ðàç(à) çà 106 ñîîáùåíèé
Çàïèñåé â äíåâíèêå: 1
angio ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåangio ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåangio ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåangio ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåangio ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåangio ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåangio ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåangio ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåangio ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Äà-à, ïîëèïèëþëÿ ðóëèò [êëîïè+ÀÑÊ+ñòàòèí+èÀÏÔ] *âå÷åðîì, [áëîêåð+äèãèäðîïèðèäèí+òèàçèä] *óòðîì
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #94  
Ñòàðûé 18.11.2010, 01:07
Àâàòàð äëÿ shok
shok shok âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 02.11.2010
Ãîðîä: Rus.
Ñîîáùåíèé: 759
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 39
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 38 ðàç(à) çà 37 ñîîáùåíèé
shok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
èíòåðåñíîå îáñóæäåíèå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, òî ÷òî íàïèñàëà Khomitskaya ìíå åùå ïðåäñòîèò îñìûñëìòü, ñïàñèáî.
Âîïðîñ ê ìîäåðàòîðàì, ìîæåò ýòó òåìó ïðî ÀÀÒ â îòäåëüíóþ òåìó âûíåñòè?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #95  
Ñòàðûé 18.11.2010, 08:01
Àâàòàð äëÿ Chevychelov
Chevychelov Chevychelov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 09.09.2006
Ãîðîä: Òèðàñïîëü
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2,244
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 73
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 163 ðàç(à) çà 140 ñîîáùåíèé
Çàïèñåé â äíåâíèêå: 54
Chevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò angio Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Äà-à, ïîëèïèëþëÿ ðóëèò [êëîïè+ÀÑÊ+ñòàòèí+èÀÏÔ] *âå÷åðîì, [áëîêåð+äèãèäðîïèðèäèí+òèàçèä] *óòðîì
Íå ëþáëþ ôèêñèðîâàííûå êîìáèíàöèè: à åñëè ëó÷øå êîíêîð óòðîì, àìëî âå÷åðîì, èÀÏÔ óòðîì è âå÷åðîì?

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
acha îäîáðèë(à): Íå ëþáëþ ôèêñèðîâàííûå êîìáèíàöèè
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #96  
Ñòàðûé 18.11.2010, 10:22
acha acha âíå ôîðóìà
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 04.04.2006
Ãîðîä: Ðîññèÿ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3,714
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 2
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 237 ðàç(à) çà 233 ñîîáùåíèé
acha ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåacha ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåacha ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåacha ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåacha ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåacha ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåacha ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåacha ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåacha ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåacha ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåacha ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Chevychelov Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Íå ëþáëþ ôèêñèðîâàííûå êîìáèíàöèè: à åñëè ëó÷øå êîíêîð óòðîì, àìëî âå÷åðîì, èÀÏÔ óòðîì è âå÷åðîì?
íàäî áû âñïîìíèòü õîðîøî çàáûòîå ñòàðîå: âðà÷ íàïèñàë ÷òî è â êàêèõ äîçàõ, à â àïòåêå ñîáðàëè áû åòî â îäíó òàáëåòêó, è âûäàëè áû â íóæíîì êîëè÷åñòâå )
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #97  
Ñòàðûé 18.11.2010, 10:52
Àâàòàð äëÿ Light
Light Light âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 17.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 9,773
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 1
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,254 ðàç(à) çà 1,110 ñîîáùåíèé
Light ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Òåìà î êîìïëàåíòíîñòè ïàöèåíòîâ àêòóàëüíà íå òîëüêî äëÿ êàðäèîëîãîâ...
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #98  
Ñòàðûé 19.11.2010, 15:30
Àâàòàð äëÿ Chevychelov
Chevychelov Chevychelov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 09.09.2006
Ãîðîä: Òèðàñïîëü
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2,244
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 73
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 163 ðàç(à) çà 140 ñîîáùåíèé
Çàïèñåé â äíåâíèêå: 54
Chevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò acha Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
íàäî áû âñïîìíèòü õîðîøî çàáûòîå ñòàðîå: âðà÷ íàïèñàë ÷òî è â êàêèõ äîçàõ, à â àïòåêå ñîáðàëè áû åòî â îäíó òàáëåòêó, è âûäàëè áû â íóæíîì êîëè÷åñòâå )
À åòî âåäü òàê ëåãêî ñäåëàòü. Ñêàæåì, ïðèõîäèò ïàöèåíò ñ ìîèìè íàçíà÷åíèÿìè â àïòåêó. Áåðåò ïðîâèçîð êàïñóëû êðàõìàëüíûå (òàêèå êàê ó òåðàôëåêñà) è ñêëàäûâàåò â ñèíåíüêèå êàïñóëêè 1 òàáë ôóðîñåìèäà, 1/4 òàáëåòêè êîíêîðà, 1 òàáëåòêó ëîçàïà, 1/2 òàáëåòêè âåðîøïèðîíà, 1/2 òàáë èíäàïàìèäà, â êðàñíåíüêèå:äèãîêñèí , àòîðåê è âàðôàðèí. Óòðîì ñèíåíüêóþ êàïñóëó, âå÷åðîì êðàñíåíüêóþ. Ïðåëåñòü. È íåäîðîãî.

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
audovichenko îäîáðèë(à): à ÷òî ìèëåíüêî! è êðàñèâî!
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #99  
Ñòàðûé 19.11.2010, 17:08
Àâàòàð äëÿ tourunov
tourunov tourunov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Çàñëóæåííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 14.01.2010
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 915
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 170 ðàç(à) çà 170 ñîîáùåíèé
tourunov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåtourunov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåtourunov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåtourunov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåtourunov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåtourunov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåtourunov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåtourunov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåtourunov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåtourunov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
À çà÷åì ñðàçó èíäàïàìèä, âåðîøïèðîí, ôóðîñåìèä?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #100  
Ñòàðûé 19.11.2010, 18:42
Àâàòàð äëÿ audovichenko
audovichenko audovichenko âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.01.2006
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7,477
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,531 ðàç(à) çà 1,497 ñîîáùåíèé
audovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò tourunov Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
À çà÷åì ñðàçó èíäàïàìèä, âåðîøïèðîí, ôóðîñåìèä?
Äëÿ ïðèìåðà Íóæíîå - îòìåòèòü ãàëî÷êîé
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #101  
Ñòàðûé 19.11.2010, 18:56
Àâàòàð äëÿ Chevychelov
Chevychelov Chevychelov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 09.09.2006
Ãîðîä: Òèðàñïîëü
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2,244
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 73
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 163 ðàç(à) çà 140 ñîîáùåíèé
Çàïèñåé â äíåâíèêå: 54
Chevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò tourunov Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
À çà÷åì ñðàçó èíäàïàìèä, âåðîøïèðîí, ôóðîñåìèä?
À ìíå íå ñòðàøíî, ÿ íå â êðàñíîì. Ïîñëåäíèé êîíãðåññ â ×èêàãî ïîêàçàë, ÷òî âåðîøïèðîí (âåðíåå ýïëåíîðîí) ïðè ÔÂ<35 äþæå ïîâûøàåò âûæèâàåìîñòü. Èíäàïàìèä äëÿ ëå÷åíèÿ Àà (íî ïî÷åìó òî â ìîåé ïðàêòèêå îí æèäêîñòü ïëîõî âûâîäèò, ïîýòîìó ôóðîñåìèä äëÿ âûâåäåíèÿ æèäêîñòè). Íàäî äîáàâèòü, ÷òî êî ìíå ïîïàäàþò ðåôðàêòåðíûå, è î÷åíü.

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
tourunov îäîáðèë(à): Íåóæåëè ôóðîñåìèäà íå õâàòàåò?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #102  
Ñòàðûé 19.11.2010, 20:06
Àâàòàð äëÿ Chevychelov
Chevychelov Chevychelov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 09.09.2006
Ãîðîä: Òèðàñïîëü
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2,244
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 73
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 163 ðàç(à) çà 140 ñîîáùåíèé
Çàïèñåé â äíåâíèêå: 54
Chevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âíà÷àëå íå õâàòàåò (ìîæåò áûòü è õâàòàëî áû 3 ðàçà â ñóòêè), áîëüíàÿ ïðèøëà ïîñëå ìåñÿöà ëå÷åíèÿ ñóáêîìïåíñèðîâàíàÿ è ñ íîðìàëüíûì ÀÄ.  äàëüíåéøåì ÿ îòìåíÿþ èëè ôóðîñåìèä èëè èíäàïàìèä. Ðàíüøå îòìåíÿë è âåðîøïèðîí, íî òåïåðü íå çíàþ.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #103  
Ñòàðûé 25.11.2010, 20:30
yarter yarter âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 17.07.2009
Ãîðîä: ßðîñëàâëü
Ñîîáùåíèé: 159
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 32
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 5 ðàç(à) çà 5 ñîîáùåíèé
yarter ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyarter ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Êîëëåãè,ó ìåíÿ òàêîé âîïðîñ - â ìàòåðèàëå "Ðóêîâîäñòâî (ðåêîìåíäàöèè) ïî ðåâàñêóëÿðèçàöèè ìèîêàðäà
The Task Force on Myocardial Revascularization of the European Society of Cardiology (ESC)
and the European Association for Cardio-Thoracic Surgery (EACTS).
Guidelines on myocardial revascularization.
Eur Heart J (2010) First published online: August 29, 2010
Ðåâàñêóëÿðèçàöèÿ ïðè ÎÊÑ ÁÏST è ÈÌ ÏST
"
,ïðèñóòñâóåò òàáëèöà ñ íàçâàíèåì -
Ðåêîìåíäàöèè äëÿ ñòðàòåãèé ðåïåðôóçèè
ó áîëüíûõ ñ èíôàðêòîì ìèîêàðäà ñ ïîäúåìîì ñåãìåíòà ST
.
 òàáëèöå ïðîïèñàíî ñëåäóþùåå ïîëîæåíèå - "â öåíòðàõ, â êîòîðûõ âîçìîæíî âûïîëíåíèå ×ÊÂ, ñëåäóåò óñòðàíèòü ïðîìåæóòî÷íîå ïîñòóïëåíèå áîëüíûõ â ïàëàòó íåîòëîæíîé ïîìîùè èëè áëîê èíòåíñèâíîãî ëå÷åíèÿ - êëàññ III,óðîâåíü óáåäèòåëüíîñòè À"
Âîçíèê èíòåðåñíûé äèñïóò - îêàçûâàåòñÿ,÷òî íåêîòîðûå êîëëåãè íåñêîëüêî èíà÷å ïîíèìàþò ñìûñë íàïèñàííîãî.
Êàê ÿ ïîíÿë äàííóþ ïîçèöèþ ðåêîìåíäàöèé - ñîâåðøåííî ÷åòêî äîêàçàííî è ïîêàçàííî,÷òî ãîñïèòàëèçàöèÿ ïàöèåíòîâ ñ ÎÊÑ ÏST â ïàëàòó êàðäèîëîãè÷åñêîãî ÏÐÈÒ íåöåëåñîîáðàçíà è äàæå ìîæåò áûòü âðåäíîé,ïðè íàëè÷èè ëàáîðàòîðèè ÐÕÌÄèË.×òî òàê äåëàòü íå ðåêîìåíäóåòñÿ è ïîýòîìó âîïðîñó êàê áû ïîëíûé êîíñåíñóñ ñïåöèàëèñòîâ.
Íî íåêîòîðûå êîëëåãè ïî÷åìó-òî íàñòàèâàþò íà òîì,÷òî ñìûñë äàííîé ðåêîìåíäàöèè ñîâåðøåííî äðóãîé,äèàìåòðàëüíî ïðîòèâîïîëîæíûé,÷òî öåëåñîîáðàçíîñòü òàêîãî äåéñòâèÿ(äîñòàâêà ïàöèåíòîâ ñðàçó â ëàáîðàòîðèþ ÐÕÌÄèË) ñîìíèòåëüíà è äàæå ìîæåò áûòü âðåäíà â íåêîòîðûõ ñèòóàöèÿõ è ññûëàþòñÿ íà òîòæå êëàññ III.
Ïîñêîëüêó âîïðîñ ïðèíöèïèàëüíûé,õîòåëîñü áû óñëûøàòü ïîÿñíåíèå èëè óòî÷íÿþùèé êîììåíòàðèé îò ëþäåé "èñêóøåííûõ â ýòèõ äåëàõ"
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #104  
Ñòàðûé 25.11.2010, 20:58
Àâàòàð äëÿ Chevychelov
Chevychelov Chevychelov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 09.09.2006
Ãîðîä: Òèðàñïîëü
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2,244
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 73
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 163 ðàç(à) çà 140 ñîîáùåíèé
Çàïèñåé â äíåâíèêå: 54
Chevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Êàê ïåðåâîä÷èê, ñêàæó , ÷òî êëàññ III ïîäòâåðæäàåò çàïðåùåíèå: íå ðåêîìåíäóåòñÿ, ñëåäóåò èçáåãàòü, ñëåäóåò óñòðàíèòü.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 25.11.2010, 21:05
yarter yarter âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 17.07.2009
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yarter ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyarter ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
to Chevychelov :èçâèíèòå,óâàæàåìûé êîëëåãà,ïðàâèëüíî-ëè ÿ ïîíÿë âàñ, ÷òî íå ðåêîìåíäóåòñÿ,ñëåäóåò èçáåãàòü,ñëåäóåò óñòðàíèòü ïðîìåæóòî÷íîå ïîñòóïëåíèå ïàöèåíòîâ ñ ÎÊÑ ÏST â êàðäèîÏÐÈÒ ïðè äåéñòâóþùåé CatLab?

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