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Ñòàðûé 24.01.2019, 13:50
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Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 01.10.2014
Ãîðîä: Ëóêîÿíîâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 72
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 6
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Äíåâíèê ÀÄ (âåðõíåå, íèæíåå, ÷ññ): 07.01.2019: 7.00 - 103/62/69, ñîòàãåêñàë 80, ðèáîêñèí, ìèëäðàíàò 250. 9.00 - 126/66/71, ñïèðèíîëàêòîí 25,11.00 - 114/58/73-----, 12.30 - 142/79/72, êîðäàôëåêñ ðåòàðä 20, ýäàðáè êëî 40+12,5, êàïòîïðèë 25, ìèëäðàíàò 250, 15.00 - 113/58/90 òðèìåòàçèäèí. 16.30 - 122/62/92, ñîòàãåêñàë 80. 20.30 - 150/79/83, êîðäàôëåêñ ðåòàðä 20, àíàïðèëèí 40, êàïòîïðèë 25. 08.01.2019: 7.30 - 106/54/63 ñîòàãåêñàë 80, 9.00 - 106/61/65, ðèáîêñèí, ìèëäðàíàò 250. 15.00 - 120/68/72 ýäàðáè êëî 40+12,5, êðäàôëåêñ ðåòàðä 20, ìèëäðàíàò 250, ñïèðèëîëàêòîí 25, êàïòîïðèë 25, áèñîïðîëîë 10. 21.00- 159/77/73 ìîêñîíèäèí 0,4, êàïòîïðèë 25. 09.01.2019: 6.00 - 106/63/68 ñîòàãåêñàë 80, ðèáîêñèí, ìèëäðîíàò 250, 08.00 - 109/64/67 íåò äàííûõ, 13.30 - 175/80/79 íåò äàííûõ, 15.30 - 175/79/77 íåò äàííûõ, 17.30 - 88/46/64 íåò äàííûõ, 19.30 - 108/64/69 íåò äàííûõ. 10.01.2018: 6.30 - 142/62/70 ñîòàãåêñàë 80, 8.30 - 134/68/72, ìèëäðàíàò 250, ðèáîêñèí, 9.30 - 146/62/73, ñïèðèíîëàêòîí 25, 12.00 - 118/64/71, 16.00 - 154/73/73 êîðäàôëåêñ ðåòàðä 20, êàïòîïðèë 25, ýäàðáè êëî 40+12,5, 20.00 - 154/72/74 àíàïðèëèí 40, ìîêñîíèäèí 0,4. 11.01.2019 - 6.30 - 142/62/68 ñîòàãåêñàë 80, ðèáîêñèí, ìèëäðîíàò 250, áèñîïðîëîë 10, ñïèðèíîëàêòîí 25, 8.15 - 134/68/69 êàïòîïðèë 25, 9.30 - 146/62/74 êîðäàôëåêñ ðåòàðä 20, 12.00 - 118/64/73 äèãîêñèí ïîëòàáëåòêè 14.00 - 154/73/78, êîðäàôëåêñ ðåòàðä 20, êàïòîïðèë 25, ýäàðáè êëî 40+12,5, 15.00 - 154/74/77 àíàïðèëèí 40. 12.01.2019: 7.00 - 150/82/73, ñîòàãåêñàë 80, áèñîïðîëîë 10, êîðäàôëåêñ 20, êàïòîïðèë 25, ñïèðèíîëàêòîí 25, äèãîêñèí ïîëòàáëåòêè. 9.00 - 98/56/65 ------, 12.00 - 130/65/70------, 15.00 - 146/70/73 êîðäàôëåêñ 20, êàïòîïðèë 25, 17.30 - 106/55/69 ñîòàãåêñàë 80. 13.01.2019: 6.30 - 130/65/71 ñîòàãåêñàë 80, áèñîïðîëîë 10, äèãîêñèí ïîëòàáëåòêè, ñïèðèíîëàêòîí 25, 8.30 - 138/84/73 êàïòîïðèë 25, 13.00 - 150/70/73 êîðäàôëåêñ 20, ýäàðáè êëî 40+12,5, êàïòîïðèë 25, 15.00 - 178/80/79 ìîêñîíèäèí 0,4, êîðäàôëåêñ 20, 16.00 - 106/60/69 -----, 18.30 - 98/60/64------, 21.00 - 105/57/69-------.
Äîçèðîâêà òîëüêî òà, ÷òî ïåðå÷èñëÿëàñü âíà÷àëå, äîçèðîâêó ïðåïàðàòîâ íå ìåíÿëè, òàê è ëåæàò íà ïîëî÷êå.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #47  
Ñòàðûé 24.01.2019, 13:58
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,437
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,678 ðàç(à) çà 32,752 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
È ìèëäðîíàò, è ðèáîêñèí - èìèòàöèÿ ëå÷åíèÿ. À êàê îíè âëèÿþò íà áèîäîñòóïíîñòü ðåàëüíûõ ïðåïàðàòîâ - íèêòî íå çíàåò.
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #48  
Ñòàðûé 24.01.2019, 14:04
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,437
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,678 ðàç(à) çà 32,752 ñîîáùåíèé
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Äíåâíèê ÀÄ (âåðõíåå, íèæíåå, ÷ññ): 07.01.2019: 7.00 - 103/62/69, ñîòàãåêñàë,, ïðàìèïåêñîë. 9.00 - 126/66/71, ñïèðèíîëàêòîí,11.00 - 114/58/73-----, 12.30 - 142/79/72, êîðäàôëåêñ ðåòàðä, ýäàðáè êëî, êàïòîïðèë,, 15.00 - 113/58/90,, ïðàìèïåêñîë, . 16.30 - 122/62/92, ñîòàãåêñàë. 20.30 - 150/79/83, êîðäàôëåêñ ðåòàðä, àíàïðèëèí, êàïòîïðèë. 08.01.2019: 7.30 - 106/54/63, , ñîòàãåêñàë, 9.00 - 106/61/65, ïðàìèïåêñîë. 15.00 - 120/68/72, , ýäàðáè êëî, êðäàôëåêñ ðåòàðä,, ñïèðèëîëàêòîí, êàïòîïðèë, áèñîïðîëîë. 21.00- 159/77/73 ìîêñîíèäèí, êàïòîïðèë, ìàäîïàð, ïðîìèïåêñîë. 09.01.2019: 6.00 - 106/63/68 ìàäîïàð, ñîòàãåêñàë, ðèáîêñèí, ìèëäðîíàò, ïðàìèïåñîë, 08.00 - 109/64/67 íåò äàííûõ, 13.30 - 175/80/79 íåò äàííûõ, 15.30 - 175/79/77 íåò äàííûõ, 17.30 - 88/46/64 íåò äàííûõ, 19.30 - 108/64/69 íåò äàííûõ. 10.01.2018: 6.30 - 142/62/70 ìàäîïàð, ïðàìèïåêñîë ñîòàãåêñàë, 8.30 - 134/68/72, ìèëäðàíàò, ðèáîêñèí, 9.30 - 146/62/73, ñïèðèíîëàêòîí, 12.00 - 118/64/71, 16.00 - 154/73/73 êîðäàôëåêñ ðåòàðä, êàïòîïðèë, ýäàðáè êëî, 20.00 - 154/72/74 àíàïðèëèí, ìîêñîíèäèí. 11.01.2019 - 6.30 - 142/62/68 ìàäîïàð, ñîòâãåêñàë, ðèáîêñèí, ìèëäðîíàò, áèñîïðîëîë, ñïèðèíîëàêòîí, 8.15 - 134/68/69 êàïòîïðèë, 9.30 - 146/62/74 êîðäàôëåêñ ðåòàðä, 12.00 - 118/64/73 äèãîêñèí, ìåòôîðìèí, 14.00 - 154/73/78, êîðäàôëåêñ ðåòàðä, êàïòîïðèë, ýäàðáè êëî, 15.00 - 154/74/77 àíàïðèëèí. 12.01.2019: 7.00 - 150/82/73, ìàäàïàð, ñîòàãåêñàë, ìåòôîðìèí, áèñîïðîëîë, êîðäàôëåêñ, êàïòîïðèë, ñïèðèíîëàêòîí, äèãîêñèí, ïðàìèïåêñîë. 9.00 - 98/56/65 ------, 12.00 - 130/65/70------, 15.00 - 146/70/73 ìàäîïàð, ìåòôîðìèí, êîðäàôëåêñ, êàïòîïðèë, ïðàìèïåêñîë, 17.30 - 106/55/69 ñîòàãåêñàë. 13.01.2019: 6.30 - 130/65/71 ìàäîïàð, ñîòàãåêñàë, ìåòôîðìèí, áèñîïðîëîë, ïðàìèïåêñàë, äèãîêñèí, ñïèðèíîëàêòîí, 8.30 - 138/84/73 êàïòîïðèë, 13.00 - 150/70/73 êîðäàôëåêñ, ýäàðáè êëî, êàïòîïðèë, 15.00 - 178/80/79 ìîêñîíèäèí, êîðäàôëåêñ, 16.00 - 106/60/69 -----, 18.30 - 98/60/64------, 21.00 - 105/57/69-------.
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #49  
Ñòàðûé 24.01.2019, 14:28
Netti76 Netti76 âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 01.10.2014
Ãîðîä: Ëóêîÿíîâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 72
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 6
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Ïîïðîáóþ åùå çà ïîñëåäíèå äíè äàòü äíåâíèê, ïîñëå "óáîðêè" ÷àñòè ëåêàðñòâ, ÷òî ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, ìàäîïàð, ïðàìèïåêñîë, ãàëâóñ íå ïîêàçûâàþ. 21.01.2019: 6.30 112/56/70 - ---, 11.00 142/65/73 êîðäàôëåêñ 20 ìã, ñïèðèíîëàêòîí 25 ìã, áèñîïðîëîë 10 ìã, êàïòîïðèë 25 ìã, ýäàðáè êëî 40ìã+12,5 ìã, 15.00 122/65/71 äèãîêñèí ïîëòàáëåòêè 18.00 142/66/72 êîðäàôëåêñ 20 ìã, êàïòîïðèë 0,25, 21.30 127/58/70- --. 22.01.2019: 6.30 159/66/74 êîðäàôëåêñ 20 ìã, êàïòîïðèë 0,25, 10.00 154/60/73 áèñîïðîëîë 10 ìã, äèãîêñèí ïîëòàáëåòêè, êîðäàôëåêñ 20 ìã, êàïòîïðèë 25 ìã, 13.30 145/63/72 êîðäàôëåêñ 20 ìã, êàïòîïðèë 25 ìã, ýäàðáè êëî 40 ìã+12,5 ìã, 17.00 140/70/71 êîðäàôëåêñ 20 ìã, êàïòîïðèë 25 ìã, ñïèðèíîëàêòîí 25 ìã, 21.00 129/70/63 -----. 23.01.2019 6.00 172/75/78 áèñîïðîëîë 10 ìã, äèãîêñèí ïîëòàáëåòêè, êàïòîïðèë 25 ìã, 7.30 126/66/71 ----, 9.30 137/65/73, 13.30 156/70/74 ýäàðáè êëî 40 ìã+12,5 ìã, ñïèðèíîëàêòîí 25 ìã, êàïòîïðèë 0,25, êîðäàôëåêñ 20 ìã, 18.00 146/56/72 êîðäàôëåêñ 20 ìã, êàïòîïðèë 25 ìã, 20.00 156/78/75 ìîêñîíèäèí 0,4 ìë.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 24.01.2019, 14:36
Netti76 Netti76 âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 01.10.2014
Ãîðîä: Ëóêîÿíîâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 72
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 6
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Êàê ïî ìíå, ÿ òîæå íå ïîíèìàþ ñõåìó ïðèåìà ñîâñåì, ïî-ìîåìó, ìàìà ïðèíèìàåò îò äàâëåíèÿ - åñòü äàâëåíèå - ïüåì òàáëåòêè, íåò ñåé÷àñ - ïîïîçæå ïðèíèìàåì.  òàêîì êîëè÷åñòâå ëåêàðñòâ òðóäíî íå çàïóòàòüñÿ ÷åëîâåêó 70 ëåò...
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  #51  
Ñòàðûé 24.01.2019, 14:43
Netti76 Netti76 âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 01.10.2014
Ãîðîä: Ëóêîÿíîâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 72
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 6
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Êàê ÿ âèæó ñåé÷àñ ñõåìó ïî ãèïåðòîíèè ïî äíåâíèêó: ýäàðáè 40/12,5 1 òàáëåòêà 1 ðàç â äåíü (ïðèíèìàåò), áèñîïðîëîë 10 1 òàáëåòêà 1 ðàç â äåíü (ïðèíèìàåò), ñïèðèíîëàêòîí 25 1 òàáëåòêà 2 ðàçà â äåíü (ïðèíèìàåò õîðîøî åñëè 1 ðàç), êîðäàôëåêñ ðåòàðä 20 1 òàáëåòêà 2 ðàçà â äåíü (ïðèíèìàåò 2 ðàçà, à òî è 3), êàïòîïðèë, ìîêñîíèäèí ïðè ïîâûøåíèè äàâëåíèÿ. Ñîòàãåêñàë óáðàëè, ìèäðàíàò óáðàëè. Ñèìâàñòàòèí íå âèæó, ìîæåò, íå ïèøåò åãî. Äèãîêñèí - íó íèêàê íå îòêàçàòüñÿ, ñ÷èòàåò, ÷òî åé ïîìîãàåò ïðè ñëàáîñòè è ïîâûøåííîì ñåðäöåáèåíèè.
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Ñòàðûé 24.01.2019, 14:58
Netti76 Netti76 âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 01.10.2014
Ãîðîä: Ëóêîÿíîâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 72
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 6
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À äèåòà ðàáîòàåò, ïðàâäà, êîãäà ñîâñåì ïðèæìåò :-( ñàõàð ïîäíÿëñÿ 19.01 äî 18 åäèíèö, òàê ñðàçó áðîñèëà êîíôåòêè êóøàòü, âîîáùå âñå ñ ñàõàðîì óáðàëà. Ðåçóëüòàò - ÷åðåç 3 äíÿ ÷óòü â êîìó íå óåõàëè, ñ òàêèìè âûñîêèìè äîçèðîâêàìè èíñóëèíà, ñàõàð óïàë äî 3 åäèíèö. Ñåé÷àñ îêîëî 4-6 åäèíèö ñ óòðà.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 24.01.2019, 15:01
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,437
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,678 ðàç(à) çà 32,752 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ãèïîòåíçèâíûå ïðèíèìàþò ïîñòîÿííî, ïðîñòî ïîòîìó , ÷òî ýòî îáåñïå÷èâàåò ïðèåìëåìîå ïëñòîÿííîå äàâëåíèå è óìåíüøàåò ÷èñëî èíñóëüòîâ  âàøåì ðàññàçå ïðî äèàáåò òîò æå õàîñ, òî åñòü îñíîâíàÿ ìàìèíà ïðîáëåìà . Õàîñàõ
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Ãèïîòåíçèâíûå ïðèíèìàþò ïîñòîÿííî, ïðîñòî ïîòîìó , ÷òî ýòî îáåñïå÷èâàåò ïðèåìëåìîå ïëñòîÿííîå äàâëåíèå è óìåíüøàåò ÷èñëî èíñóëüòîâ  âàøåì ðàññàçå ïðî äèàáåò òîò æå õàîñ, òî åñòü îñíîâíàÿ ìàìèíà ïðîáëåìà . Õàîñàõ
Óãó. Ïðè ýòîì ìàìà âñåãäà ãîðäèëàñü, ÷òî ïðèíèìàåò ãèïîòåíçèâíûå ïðåïàðàòû ïîñòîÿííî, à íå êóðñàìè, êàê ìíîãèå.
Ïîäñêàæèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, ÷òî íå òàê ó íàñ ñ óêîëàìè â æèâîò è ñ èãëàìè? Íóæíî ìåíÿòü ìåñòî óêîëîâ êîðîòêîãî èíñóëèíà?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 24.01.2019, 15:23
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,437
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,678 ðàç(à) çà 32,752 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
À Âû íè íà îäèí âîïðîñ íå îòâåòèëè- íó õîòü î äëèíå èãëû È î ëèïîãèïåðòðîôèè
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  #56  
Ñòàðûé 24.01.2019, 16:28
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Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 01.10.2014
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 72
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 6
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Âîò, ÿ óæå ïèñàëà.
Èãëû: ñíà÷àëà òå, ÷òî â ðó÷êå, ãäå-òî íåäåëþ. Ïîòîì èç àïòåêè, ¹ 8, ò.å. 8 ìì. Ëèïîãèïåðòðîôèè ïîñìîòðåëà, íî íàëèöî ñ õîäó íå îïðåäåëþ... ìîæåò, è åñòü, äàâíî êîëåò â æèâîò, ïîâåðõíîñòü áóãðèñòàÿ è ÷àñòî ñèíÿêè íà æèâîòå. Ñêëàäêà-ôàðòóê äàâíèøíÿÿ, ïîñëå ðîäîâ è ïîòîì âåñ-òî áûë îêîëî 120 êã, òîëüêî ïîñëå íà÷àëà äèàáåòà ñíèçèëñÿ. Âåñ óøåë, ñêëàäêè îñòàëèñü. ß òàê ïîíèìàþ, åñëè ïîïàäàåì â ýòó øòóêó, òî óñâîåíèå èíñóëèíà ïëîõîå? È êàê òîãäà êîëîòü?
Íàäî ñêàçàòü, îæèðåíèå ïðèñóòñòâóåò, êîíå÷íî, 85 ïðè 164 ðîñòå ýòî ëèøíèé âåñ, íî âåñ ãîä îò ãîäà ñíèæàåòñÿ.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 24.01.2019, 16:32
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,437
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,678 ðàç(à) çà 32,752 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Òî åñòü èãëà äëèííàÿ, êîæà òîëñòàÿ, áîëüøîé ñëîé ïîäêîæíîãî æèðà, åñòü ëèïîãèïåðòðîôèè
Ïîýòîìó íóæíî îáó÷èòü òåõíèêå èíüåêöèè, ñìåíû ìåñò. Òä íó è õîòü ôîòî « êóñî÷êà» õëåáà íà áóòåðáðîäû. ×óäåñ íåò - õàîñ ñ ââåäåíèåì ðíñóëèíà, Ñ ïèòàíèåì è ñíòèãèïåðòííçòâíîé. Åðàïèåé. Îæåò ïðèâåñòè ê òðàãåäèè
Òó÷íûì ñêëàäêó äåëàòü íå íàäî è íå íàäî êîëîòü ïîä óãëîì, îòëè÷íûì îò ïðÿìîãî. Íàäî íå ââîäèòü èíñóëèí â ëèïîãèïåðòðîôèè
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Ñòàðûé 24.01.2019, 22:44
Yariko Yariko âíå ôîðóìà
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Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 07.07.2008
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,871
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 16
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,141 ðàç(à) çà 2,050 ñîîáùåíèé
Yariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
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Ïîïðîáóþ åùå çà ïîñëåäíèå äíè äàòü äíåâíèê, ïîñëå "óáîðêè" ÷àñòè ëåêàðñòâ, ÷òî ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, ìàäîïàð, ïðàìèïåêñîë, ãàëâóñ íå ïîêàçûâàþ. 21.01.2019: 6.30 112/56/70 - ---, 11.00 142/65/73 êîðäàôëåêñ 20 ìã, ñïèðèíîëàêòîí 25 ìã, áèñîïðîëîë 10 ìã, êàïòîïðèë 25 ìã, ýäàðáè êëî 40ìã+12,5 ìã, 15.00 122/65/71 äèãîêñèí ïîëòàáëåòêè 18.00 142/66/72 êîðäàôëåêñ 20 ìã, êàïòîïðèë 0,25, 21.30 127/58/70- --. 22.01.2019: 6.30 159/66/74 êîðäàôëåêñ 20 ìã, êàïòîïðèë 0,25, 10.00 154/60/73 áèñîïðîëîë 10 ìã, äèãîêñèí ïîëòàáëåòêè, êîðäàôëåêñ 20 ìã, êàïòîïðèë 25 ìã, 13.30 145/63/72 êîðäàôëåêñ 20 ìã, êàïòîïðèë 25 ìã, ýäàðáè êëî 40 ìã+12,5 ìã, 17.00 140/70/71 êîðäàôëåêñ 20 ìã, êàïòîïðèë 25 ìã, ñïèðèíîëàêòîí 25 ìã, 21.00 129/70/63 -----. 23.01.2019 6.00 172/75/78 áèñîïðîëîë 10 ìã, äèãîêñèí ïîëòàáëåòêè, êàïòîïðèë 25 ìã, 7.30 126/66/71 ----, 9.30 137/65/73, 13.30 156/70/74 ýäàðáè êëî 40 ìã+12,5 ìã, ñïèðèíîëàêòîí 25 ìã, êàïòîïðèë 0,25, êîðäàôëåêñ 20 ìã, 18.00 146/56/72 êîðäàôëåêñ 20 ìã, êàïòîïðèë 25 ìã, 20.00 156/78/75 ìîêñîíèäèí 0,4 ìë.
ýòî êàêîé- òî áàðäàê, à íå òåðàïèÿ. Ïî÷åìó îíà ïðèíèìàåò êàïòîïðèë, ýòî áåçîáðàçèå! Àíòèãèïåðòèåíçèâíûå ïðåïàðàòû îíà äîëæíà ïðèíèìàòü â äâà ïðèåìà, à íå â ìíîæåñòâåííûå ïðîìåæóòêè âðåìåíè, èçìåðÿòü ÀÄ òîæå òîëüêî 2 ðàçà â äåíü.
Óòðîì, êîãäà âñòàëà - ýäàðáè êëî 40 + 25 ìã, ñïèðîíîëàêòîí 25 ìã - 2 òàáëåòêè, êîðäàôëåêñ 20 ìã è áèñîïðîëîë 5 ìã, âå÷åðîì - âòîðîé ïðèåì - êîðäàôëåêñ 40 ìã, áèñîïðîëîë 5 ìã. Ïðèíèìàåò ïîñòîÿííî, à íå òîãäà, êîãäà ïîâûøåíèå ÀÄ. Àíòèãèïåðòåíçèâíûå ïðåïàðàòû íå äëÿ ñíèæåíèÿ ÀÄ, à äëÿ ïðåäóïðåæäåíèÿ åãî ïîâûøåíèÿ.

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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #59  
Ñòàðûé 26.01.2019, 15:20
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Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 01.10.2014
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Ñïàñèáî çà ñõåìó, ïîñòàðàåìñÿ äåðæàòü. ß-òî âñå ïîíèìàþ, ìàìå âòîëêîâàòü íå ìîãó. Âîçðàæåíèå òàêîå: åñëè âñòàëà ñ óòðà, äàâëåíèå 100, òîæå ïèòü âåñü óòðåííèé êîìïëåêò ëåêàðñòâ, îíè æå ñíèçÿò äàâëåíèå åùå áîëüøå? Ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, âòîðîé âîïðîñ: õîðîøî, ïðèíèìàåì ñòðîãî ïî ñïèñêó. Äàâëåíèå, êñòàòè, ìåðÿåò ÷àñòî, ò.ê. ÷óâñòâóåò, êîãäà ïîäíèìàåòñÿ, áåæèò çà òîíîìåòðîì. Òàê åñëè âñå-òàêè ïîäíÿëîñü, âîò êàê ñåé÷àñ, äî 180, ÷òî ïðèíèìàòü òîãäà? Åñëè è êàïòîïðèë è àíàïðèëèí "áåçîáðàçèå"? È ìîêñîíèäèí òîæå ïëîõî...ß òàê ïîíèìàþ, îíà "áåðåæåò" ýäàðáè è âñå ïðî÷åå äî ïîäúåìà äàâëåíèÿ, äîæèäàåòñÿ åãî è âûïèâàåò ëåêàðñòâà. Åñëè íå äîæèäàåòñÿ - ïðèíèìàåò ÷àñòü ÷àñîâ â 11, ÷àñòü âî âòîðîé ïîëîâèíå äíÿ.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #60  
Ñòàðûé 26.01.2019, 17:53
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,437
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