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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
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Eithery ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåEithery ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåEithery ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåEithery ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåEithery ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
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È íå çíàþ, ìîæíî ëè, íî õî÷ó ïîäåëèòüñÿ îäíîé èíòåðåñíîé ñòàòüåé î ïñåâäîìåäèöèíå, ïðàâäà, îíà íå íîâàÿ, 2004 ã., âîçìîæíî, óæå çíàêîìà êîìó-òî Ýòî íå î Ðîññèè, íî ïî÷èòàòü âñå ðàâíî ñòîèò, íàïèñàíî æèâûì, ïðîñòûì ÿçûêîì [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]

îíà ìíå òàê ïîíðàâèëàñü, äóìàþ, ñòîèò åå ïåðåâåñòè äëÿ íàøåãî "ìàìñêîãî" ôîðóìà
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 02.08.2008, 23:43
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Äëÿ òåõ, êòî åùå íå â ïîëíîé ìåðå îñîçíàë, ×ÒÎ òàêîå øàðëàòàíñòâî.
 ïîåçäå, ÷èòàÿ êàêóþ òî ïîïàâøóþñÿ ïîä ðóêè ãàçåòåíêó (êíèãà êîí÷èëàñü) ÿ íàòîëêíóëñÿ íà ôðàçó "Ìîëîäîñòü è çäîðîâüå ìîæíî êóïèòü - 5 åâðî çà äåíü âîçâðàùåííîé æèçíè". Ñèëüíî ïðàâäà? Ïðîäîëæåíèå âûáèëî ìåíÿ èç êîëåè ìèíóò íà 5 "áåçîïåðàöèîííàÿ òðàíñïëàíòàöèÿ ñòâîëîâûõ êëåòîê â êóïåëè" Âû ïîíÿëè? ß - íåò.
Íî îêàçàëàñü, ÷òî ó î÷åðåäíîãî "àÕàäåìèêà" åñòü ñàéò.
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[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
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Ñòàðûé 03.08.2008, 11:01
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Äëÿ òåõ, êòî åùå íå â ïîëíîé ìåðå îñîçíàë, ×ÒÎ òàêîå øàðëàòàíñòâî.
 ïîåçäå, ÷èòàÿ êàêóþ òî ïîïàâøóþñÿ ïîä ðóêè ãàçåòåíêó (êíèãà êîí÷èëàñü) ÿ íàòîëêíóëñÿ íà ôðàçó "Ìîëîäîñòü è çäîðîâüå ìîæíî êóïèòü - 5 åâðî çà äåíü âîçâðàùåííîé æèçíè". Ñèëüíî ïðàâäà? Ïðîäîëæåíèå âûáèëî ìåíÿ èç êîëåè ìèíóò íà 5 "áåçîïåðàöèîííàÿ òðàíñïëàíòàöèÿ ñòâîëîâûõ êëåòîê â êóïåëè" Âû ïîíÿëè? ß - íåò.
Íî îêàçàëàñü, ÷òî ó î÷åðåäíîãî "àÕàäåìèêà" åñòü ñàéò.
Ñëàáîíåðâíûì, äåòÿì è òîëüêîïîêóøàâøèì íå ÷èòàòü.
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
Îé äà ýòî æå íàøå ñâåòèëî. Õàðüêîâñêîå.Îí ñî÷èíÿåò ÷àè ðàçíûå.  òîì ÷èñëå è äëÿ ïîõóäåíèÿ. È ëåïèò íà íèõ ñâîþ ôîòêó. Êñòàòè äåéñòâóåò, åñëè ïðàâèëüíî èñïîëüçîâàòü. Ñòàâèøü íåðàñïå÷àòàíûé ÷àé â õîëîäèëüíèê, ôîòîé àâòîðà ê ñåáå, íà óðîâíå ãëàç. È êàæäûé ðàç îòêðûâàÿ õîëîäèëüíèê íà òåáÿ îòòóäà ñìîòðèò ãèáðèä èç Àíäðþøêè (ÎÑÏ-ñòóäèÿ) è õðþøêè. Àïïåòèò îòáèâàåò òîëüêî òàê.

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Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
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À ôîðóì áåç ïðèñìîòðà ìåäèöèíñêîãî è ðåêëàìêà íà ôîðóìå ñêâåðíîâàòàÿ ( âïðî÷åì, òàì íåáîñü òîæå êîììåð÷åñêàÿ ïîëèòèêà )
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Ñòàðûé 03.08.2008, 17:32
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Äëÿ òåõ, êòî åùå íå â ïîëíîé ìåðå îñîçíàë, ×ÒÎ òàêîå øàðëàòàíñòâî.
 ïîåçäå, ÷èòàÿ êàêóþ òî ïîïàâøóþñÿ ïîä ðóêè ãàçåòåíêó (êíèãà êîí÷èëàñü) ÿ íàòîëêíóëñÿ íà ôðàçó "Ìîëîäîñòü è çäîðîâüå ìîæíî êóïèòü - 5 åâðî çà äåíü âîçâðàùåííîé æèçíè". Ñèëüíî ïðàâäà? Ïðîäîëæåíèå âûáèëî ìåíÿ èç êîëåè ìèíóò íà 5 "áåçîïåðàöèîííàÿ òðàíñïëàíòàöèÿ ñòâîëîâûõ êëåòîê â êóïåëè" Âû ïîíÿëè? ß - íåò.
Íî îêàçàëàñü, ÷òî ó î÷åðåäíîãî "àÕàäåìèêà" åñòü ñàéò.
Ñëàáîíåðâíûì, äåòÿì è òîëüêîïîêóøàâøèì íå ÷èòàòü.
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
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àé äà ïðîôåññîð!
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Ñòàðûé 03.08.2008, 18:12
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...ïîâåðèòü â òàêèå ÷óäî-ñóï÷èêè...
Ïîäîáíûå ñóï÷èêè ÷àñòî âñòðå÷àë â ïðîäóêòîâûõ ìàãàçèíàõ è ñóïåðìàðêåòàõ Áèðìû (ñîþç Ìüÿíìà) - çàïàÿííûå ïàêåòèêè ðàçíîé ñòåïåíè öâåòàñòîñòè ñ êîìïëåêòîì ñóõèõ òðàâîê è âåòî÷åê è îáåùàíèåì òðàäèöèîííîé ìåñòíîé ìåäèöèíû èçëå÷åíèÿ îò âñåãî (àññîðòèìåíò áîëåå òûñÿ÷è íàèìåíîâàíèé - ñ êàæäîé äåðåâíè - êàê è âî ôðàíöóçñêîé êóõíå - íàçâàíèå êàæäîãî áëþäà/ñîóñà ïî ìåñòå÷êó èçîáðåòåíèÿ). Ëþáîïûòíà èíñòðóêöèÿ ê ïðèìåíåíèþ - ýòè êîìïëåêòû ñåíà äîáàâëÿþòñÿ â âèäå ïðèïðàâ âî âðåìÿ ïðèãîòîâëåíèÿ êóðèíîãî ëèáî ðûáíîãî áóëüîíà. Ñðåäè ìåñòíîãî íàñåëåíèÿ äàííûå "ëå÷åáíûå" ïðèïðàâû âåñüìà ïîïóëÿðíû è öåíÿòñÿ êàê äèåòè÷åñêîå ðàçíîîáðàçèå (ïðàâäà ìíå íå áûëî äàíî ðàçîáðàòüñÿ âî âêóñîâûõ òîíêîñòÿõ - ñåíî, îí è â Áèðìå ñåíî ).
Òàê ÷òî, íå èñêëþ÷àþ, ÷òî îòêðûòèå óïîìÿíóòîãî "ïðîôåññîðà" áûëî ñäåëàíî âî âðåìÿ òóðèñòè÷åñêîé ïîåçäêè â Þãî-Âîñòî÷íóþ àçèþ.
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Êðàíèîñàêðàëüíàÿ òåðàïèÿ.

Why Craniosacral Therapy Is Silly

Craniosacral therapy is one of many terms used to describe a various methods based on fanciful claims that:

* The human brain makes rhythmic movements at a rate of 10 to 14 cycles per minute, a periodicity unrelated to breathing or heart rate.
* Small cranial pulsations can be felt with the fingertips.
* Restriction of movement of the cranial sutures (where the skull bones meet) interfere with the normal flow of cerebrospinal fluid (the fluid that surrounds the brain and spinal cord) and cause disease.
* Diseases can be diagnosed by detecting aberrations in this rhythm.
* Pain (especially of the jaw joint) and many other ailments can be remedied by pressing on the skull bones.

Most practitioners are osteopaths, massage therapists, chiropractors, dentists, or physical therapists. The other terms used to describe what they do include cranial osteopathy, cranial therapy, bio cranial therapy, and two chiropractic variants called craniopathy and sacro occipital technique (SOT).
The Scientific Viewpoint

I do not believe that craniosacral therapy has any therapeutic value. Its underlying theory is false because the bones of the skull fuse by the end of adolescence and no research has ever demonstrated that manual manipulation can move the individual cranial bones [10]. Nor do I believe that "the rhythms of the craniosacral system can be felt as clearly as the rhythms of the cardiovascular and respiratory systems," as is claimed by another Upledger Institute brochure [11]. The brain does pulsate, but this is exclusively related to the cardiovascular system [12], and no relationship between brain pulsation and general health has been demonstrated.

A few years ago, three physical therapists who examined the same 12 patients diagnosed significantly different "craniosacral rates," which is the expected outcome of measuring a nonexistent phenomenon [13]. Another study compared the "craniosacral rate" measured at the head and feet of 28 adults by two examiners and found that the results were highly inconsistent [14].

In 1999, after doing a comprehensive review of published studies, the British Columbia Office of Health Technology Assessment (BCOHTA) concluded that the theory is invalid and that practitioners cannot reliably measure what they claim to be modifying. The 68-page report concludes that "there is insufficient evidence to recommend craniosacral therapy to patients, practitioners, or third party payers." [15]

In 2002, two basic science professors at the University of New England College of Osteopathic Medicine concluded:

Our own and previously published findings suggest that the proposed mechanism for cranial osteopathy is invalid and that interexaminer (and, therefore, diagnostic) reliability is approximately zero. Since no properly randomized, blinded, and placebo-controlled outcome studies have been published, we conclude that cranial osteopathy should be removed from curricula of colleges of osteopathic medicine and from osteopathic licensing examinations [10].

I certainly agree! In fact, I believe that most practitioners of craniosacral therapy have such poor judgment that they should be delicensed.

[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
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Ñòàðûé 10.08.2008, 23:48
Dtver Dtver âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Êàíäèäàò â âåòåðàíû ôîðóìà
      
 
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Dtver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDtver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDtver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDtver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDtver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDtver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDtver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDtver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDtver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDtver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDtver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Îé, ßíà ïîÿâèëàñü. Íå ïðîøëî è ãîäà
Ñîþç ïèñàòåëåé ðåàáèëèòèðîâàë Äîâëàòîâà?
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Ñòàðûé 10.08.2008, 23:51
Àâàòàð äëÿ yananshs
yananshs yananshs âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
çàáàíåí
      
 
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Äåíèñ, îñòîðîæíî. Åøå ìíîãî äðóãèõ íåðåàáèëèòèðîâàííûõ ïèñàòåëåé îñòàëîñü.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 26.12.2008, 19:31
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
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Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
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Ñòàðûé 26.12.2008, 22:11
akassa akassa âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
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akassa î ðåïóòàöèè ýòîãî ó÷àñòíèêà íåëüçÿ ñêàçàòü íè÷åãî îïðåäåëåííîãî
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Íå çíàþ, ñìåÿòüñÿ èëè ïëàêàòü.

Öèòàòà:
Ñîâñåì íåäàâíî ïîÿâèëñÿ íîâûé ïðîäóêò êèòàéñêîé êîìïàíèè «Ñèÿþùàÿ ëóíà» - Winalite.<br/> Ïî ñóòè, ýòî êèòàéñêèå íàíîòåõíîëîãèè (è â ýòîì ïðîäóêòå îíè îáîãíàëè íàñ) - ýòî òåõíîëîãèè, ñîçèäàþùèå ÷åëîâåêà.  ÷åì îòëè÷èå îò ïðåäûäóùèõ êèòàéñêèõ êîìïàíèé?<br/> Ïðåæäå âñåãî, çäåñü âïåðâûå ïðèìåíåí ìåòîä áèîôîòîíà äëÿ êâàíòîâîé òåëåïîðòàöèè àêòèâíûõ ïðèðîäíûõ êîìïîíåíòîâ. Èñïîëüçîâàí äàâíî èçâåñòíûé ïðèíöèï Èíü-ßíü íà íîâîì, áèîôîòîííîì, óðîâíå, ãäå ðîëü àêòèâàòîðà àíèîíîâ èãðàþò íîãè, ïðîñòî è ãåíèàëüíî! Òðåíèå ïîðîæäàåò ýíåðãèþ çàâèõðåíèÿ è àêòèâèðóåò ãîëîãðàôè÷åñêóþ ïðîåêöèþ ýôèðíîãî òåëà ÷åëîâåêà, ÷òî â ñâîþ î÷åðåäü ñíà÷àëà âîññòàíàâëèâàåò ýôèðíûé ãîìåîñòàç, à çàòåì è ôèçè÷åñêèé.<br/> Âòîðîé ýôôåêò íàáëþäàåì íà óðîâíå ÷àêð è ýíåðãèè Êóíäàëèíè.<br/> Òðåòèé ýôôåêò - íà óðîâíå ýíäîêðèííîé ñèñòåìû: ýòî âîññòàíîâëåíèå ãîðìîíàëüíîãî ôîíà ÿè÷íèêîâ, íàäïî÷å÷íèêîâ è ñèíåðãè÷åñêè - ùèòîâèäíîé æåëåçû.<br/> Âñå ýòî ïîçâîëÿåò âîññòàíîâèòü ýíäîêðèííóþ è ìî÷åïîëîâóþ ñèñòåìó íå òîëüêî æåíùèí, íî è ìóæ÷èí, ðåøèòü ìíîãîëåòíèå ïðîáëåìû ïðÿìîé êèøêè (ãåìîððîé).<br/> ×òî æå íà ñàìîì äåëå ïðîèñõîäèò? À ïðîèñõîäèò ñàíàöèÿ ïîëîñòåé ìàëîãî òàçà!<br/> Ïîìèìî ýòîãî, æåíñêèå ëå÷åáíî-ïðîôèëàêòè÷åñêèå ïðîêëàäêè ïîçâîëÿþò çàùèòèòü æåíùèíó îò çàãðÿçíåíèÿ èçâíå (èñïîëüçîâàòü ïîñëå êóïàíèÿ â âîäîåìàõ, íàïðèìåð). È îñîáåííî âàæíî çàùèòèòü îò èíôèöèðîâàíèÿ â ïåðèîä áåðåìåííîñòè, ìåñÿ÷íûõ öèêëîâ, äî è ïîñëå îïåðàöèé â îáëàñòè ìàëîãî òàçà. Ïðîêëàäêè àáñîðáèðóþò (âûòÿãèâàþò) íå òîëüêî èíîðîäíûå ìèêðîîðãàíèçìû, íî è ñîçäàþò âûñîêî÷àñòîòíûé âèáðàöèîííûé ðÿä, íåãàòèâíî äåéñòâóþùèé íà ïàðàçèòàðíóþ ìèêðîôëîðó.<br/> Îñíîâíûå ïðåèìóùåñòâà: 100% çàùèòà îò èíôèöèðîâàíèÿ, îñîáåííî ïîñëå àáîðòîâ è ðîäîâ, ñòåðèëüíîñòü, áåçîïàñíîñòü, îòñóòñòâèå õèìè÷åñêèõ äîáàâîê, íåòîêñè÷íîñòü. Ïðîêëàäêè íå èìåþò ïîáî÷íûõ ýôôåêòîâ, íå îòÿãîùàþò ñåðäå÷íî-ñîñóäèñòóþ è æåëóäî÷íî-êèøå÷íóþ ñèñòåìû, íå èìåþò îãðàíè÷åíèé â ïåðèîä áåðåìåííîñòè, ìåñÿ÷íûõ öèêëîâ è êëèìàêñà.<br/> Îñíîâíîå ïðåäíàçíà÷åíèå:<br/> - íîðìàëèçàöèÿ ãîðìîíàëüíîãî ôîíà (â ò.÷. ïîõóäåíèå)<br/> - âîññòàíîâëåíèå ôóíêöèé îðãàíèçìà (íàïð., ïðè òàêèõ íàðóøåíèÿõ, êàê íåäåðæàíèå ìî÷è â äåòñêîì è ïîæèëîì âîçðàñòå)<br/> - ïîäòÿãèâàíèå ìàòêè ïîñëå ðîäîâ, ïîäòÿãèâàíèå âëàãàëèùà â ïîæèëîì âîçðàñòå<br/> - âîññòàíîâëåíèå è íîðìàëèçàöèÿ ìåíñòðóàëüíîãî öèêëà<br/> - ðàññàñûâàíèå ñïàåê, ýðîçèé, êèñò, ìèîì<br/> - ëå÷åíèå áåñïëîäèÿ<br/> - ëå÷åíèå ïðîñòàòèòà, ãåìîððîÿ, êðîâîòå÷åíèé èç ïðÿìîé êèøêè<br/> - îáùåå îìîëîæåíèå.<br/> È ñàìîå ãëàâíîå - ýòî êóëüòóðà çäîðîâîãî îáðàçà æèçíè! Ýòî âîçìîæíîñòü ÐÅÀËÜÍÎÃÎ âûïîëíåíèÿ ãîñóäàðñòâåííûõ ïðîãðàìì ï îçäîðîâëåíèþ íàñåëåíèÿ, çàùèòû ìàòåðèíñòâà, óëó÷øåíèÿ äåìîãðàôè÷åñêîé ñèòóàöèè (óâåëè÷åíèÿ ðîæäàåìîñòè).<br/>
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Ñòàðûé 27.12.2008, 05:01
Àâàòàð äëÿ Hard
Hard Hard âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Êàíäèäàò â âåòåðàíû ôîðóìà
      
 
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The American Academy of Dermatology recommends that an adequate amount of vitamin D should be obtained from a healthy diet that includes foods naturally rich in vitamin D, foods/beverages fortified with vitamin D, and/or vitamin D supplements; it should not be obtained from unprotected exposure to ultraviolet (UV) radiation.
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Ñòàðûé 27.12.2008, 10:02
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Ìåíÿ íåñêîëüêî îçàäà÷èëà âîò ýòà ñòàòüÿ:
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Ñòàòåé î öåëåñîîáðàçíîñòè äîïîëíèòåëüíîãî ïðè¸ìà âèòàìèíà Ä äëÿ ïîäðîñòêîâ, æåíùèí â ìåíîïàóçå è ïåðåáîëåâøèõ ðàêîì ìîëî÷íîé æåëåçû - ïðåäîñòàòî÷íî.

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Ñòàðûé 28.12.2008, 16:12
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