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Ó ìåíÿ áûë îäèí ïàöèåíò, ðàäóæêà ïðèíèìàåò íîðìàëüíîå ïîëîæåíèå ìãíîâåííî, êàê òîëüêî ñäåëàë ÈÀÃ-ëàç. èðèäîòîìèþ.
Ps: Åñòü ïëàãèàò íà ðóññêîì. [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ] |
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Áîëüíàÿ 37 ëåò, â àíàìíåçå ìèîïèÿ -8,0 ãîñïèòàëèçèðîâàíà ñ Êóøèíãîì ( îáðàçîâàíèå â íàäïî÷å÷íèêå - ëàáîðàòîðíî è èíñòðóìåíòàëüíî ïîäòâåðæäåíî).
Èçíà÷àëüíî îáðàòèëàñü â ÌÍÒÊ äëÿ ðåôðàêöèîííîé îïåðàöèè ò.ê. óõóäøåíèå çðåíèÿ ñâÿçûâàëà ñ èìåííî ìèîïèåé. Ïðè îñìîòðå - ãë. äíî - òîëüêî íàâåâàåò íà òîíîãðàôèþ ÄÇÍ(ÝÊÑÊÀÂÀÖÈß 9/10, ïðè ¹ âíóòðèãëàçíîì äàâëåíèè, âñå îñòàëüíîå á/î) ÍÎ!!! íà ïåðèìåòðå ÎÊÓËÞÑ - ãåìèàíîïñèÿ ñëåâà ( êëèíè÷åñêè ãåìèàíîïñèÿ ñïðàâà) - àáñ. ñêîòîìû äî, ïðàêòè÷åñêè, öåíòðà - îñòàëüíûå îòäåëû - ñíèæåíèå êîíòðàñòíîé ÷óâñòâèòåëüíîñòè äî îòíîñèò. ñêîòîì. Íà ÌÐÒ - â ëåâîé çàòûëî÷íîé îáë. î÷àã â êîðå è áåëîì â/âå, ïî òèïó ïîñòèøåìè÷åñêîãî - ðàçìåð íå óêàçàí. â ëîáíûõ äîëÿõ ìåëêèå òàêèå æå î÷àãè. Âîïðîñ - êòî ÷åãî ìîæåò ñêàçàòü? Ýòî êàêîé æå äîëæåí áûòü î÷àã, èøåìè÷åñêèé èíñóëüò ! ÷òîáû ïîëå òàê âûïàëî? Íåâðîëîãè ãîâîðÿò, ìîæåò. Äðóãîé íåâðîëîãè÷åñêîé êëèíèêè íåò!!! Ïðè Êóøèíãå áûâàåò äåìèåëèíèçàöèÿ, è ïåðâîå, ÷òî ïðèøëî ìíå â ãîëîâó - ñïðîñèòü - èøåìè÷åñêèå ëè ýòî î÷àãè èëè äåìèåëèíèçàöèÿ.... Ïðàâäà, íå ëå÷èòü æå Êóøèíãà ñòåðîèäàìè... Êòî ñòàëêèâàëñÿ ñ ðàçíûìè ìîäèôèêàöèÿìè ïîëåé çðåíèÿ ïðè èøåìè÷åñêèõ èíñóëüòàõ? Ïîéäó ðûòü çàáðîøåííûå êíèæêè! |
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Ñòàëêèâàëàñü êàê ñ ëåâîñòîðîííåé,òàê è ñ ïðàâîñòîðîííåé ãåìèàíîïñèåé ïðè èøåìè÷åñêèõ èíñóëüòàõ.À ïîñëåäíèå äâå áîëüíûå-ñóæåíèå ïîëåé ñî âñåõ ñòîðîí äî ïÿòè ãðàäóñîâ îò òî÷êè ôèêñàöèè(ò.å.òðóáî÷íîå çðåíèå).Ó íèõ îáåèõ -ïîðàæåíèå â áàññåéíå çàäíåé ìîçãîâîé àðòåðèè.Ó îäíîé-âîññòàíîâëåíèå ïîëÿ çðåíèÿ äî âîçðàñòíîé íîðìû ïîñëå íåéðîòðîôè÷åñêîé è âàçîàêòèâíîé òåðàïèè,ó äðóãîé-ñîõðàíåíèå äåôåêòà è âûõîä íà èíâàëèäíîñòü ïî çðåíèþ(ïðè òîì,÷òî âèçóñ îñòàëñÿ=1,0 íà îáîèõ ãëàçàõ)
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Äà âðîäå âñ¸ óêëàäûâàåòñÿ - êóøèíã - àðòåðèàëüíàÿ ãèïåðòåíçèÿ - íàðóøåíèÿ ëèïèäíîãî îáìåíà (óâåëè÷åíèå ñèíòåçà êàê ËÏÂÏ, òàê è ËÏÍÏ, òðèãëèöåðèäîâ - àòåðîñêëåðîç - èíñóëüò â ëåâîé ãåìèñôåðå - ïðàâîñòîðîííÿÿ ãåìèàíîïñèÿ.
Òèïè÷íûé, èìõî, ñëó÷àé âûãëÿäèò òàê- ïîæèëîé ãèïåðòîíèê ïîñëå êðèçà ïðèõîäèò íà ïðè¸ì â ïîëèêëèíèêó ñ æàëîáàìè íà øòîðó ñëåâà èëè ñïðàâà, â êîíå÷íîì èòîãå ýòî èíñóëüò â ïðîòèâîïîëîæíîé ãåìèñôåðå. Íàñ÷¸ò ýêñêàâàöèè - âàðèàíò íîðìû ïðè áëèçîðóêîñòè, à åñëè ñîìíåíèÿ - òîëùèíà ñëîÿ í.âîëîêîí, êàê äèôäèàãíîñòè÷åñêèé ïàðàìåòð ìåæäó íîðìîé è àòðîôèåé âñëåäñòâèå ãëàóêîìû èëè ñîñóäèñòîé àòðîôèåé ñ ýêñêàâàöèåé. |
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Ñåãîäíÿ êàê ðàç, ïàöèåíòêà ñ ëåâîñòîðîííåé ãåìèàíîïñèåé. Ðîâíî ìåñÿö íàçàä ïîÿâèëàñü. Îòïðàâèë ê íåâðîëîãó åññíî. Ïëåâàòü óæå íà ý/ä 0,9-1,0. ß èç ñëó÷àÿ Ðàìåéêè òîëüêî îäíîãî íå ïîíÿë. Êàêèì ýòî îáðàçîì îêóëþñ "ñïóòàë" ñòîðîíû? ß çíàþ, ÷òî ëåâûé ãëàç îí ïå÷àòàåò ïåðâûì. Êòî äåëàë èññëêäîâàíèå? Âû ñàìè?)
Äàâíî èíòåðåñóåò, êîëëåãè, êàêîâà äèàãíîñòè÷åñêàÿ öåííîñòü ðåíòãåíà îáëàñòè òóðåöêîãî ñåäëà ïðè ðàçëè÷íîãî õàðàêòåðà ãåìèàíîïñèÿõ èëè êâàäðîàíîïñèÿõ? Î÷åíü ìîäíîå èññëåäîâàíèå ñðåäè íàøåãî ó÷ðåæäåíèÿ. Íó è äî êó÷êè... Êàêîâà öåííîñòü íàõîäîê íà Rg îáûçâåñòâëåíèÿ ñîííîé àðòåðèè, ãèïîôèçà, øèøêîâèäíîé æåëåçû, è ñèíäðîìà "ïóñòîãî òóðåöêîãî ñåäëà"? Ñïàñèáî. |
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Äà ÈÌÕÎ ìîæíî.
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Öèòàòà:
À êàê ñòîðîíû ïåðåïóòàëèñü.... âîò è íå ïîíèìàþ.... Êðîìå òîãî - ÿ ãîâîðþ î çàòûëî÷íîé äîëå, à íå î ãåìèñôåðå( ýòî ïîëãîëîâû ÷òî ëè?). Ðåíòãåíîëîãè÷åñêàÿ öåííîñòü - ÊÒ è ÌÐ Ò, ïî ñèíäðîìó " ïóñòîãî òóðåöêîãî ñåäëà" - ïîèùèòå òåìó â ýíäîêðèíîëîãèè, òàì Ãàëèíà Àôàíàñüåâíà î÷åíü ÷åòêî âñå ðàçëîæèëà - ïîä ðóêîé ññûëêè íåò. Îáûçâåñòâëåíèå ñîííîé - Âû èìååòå ââèäó èíòðàêðàíèàëüíûé îòäåë? - ß ïðåäïî÷èòàþ àíãèîãðàôèþ( òîêî ïî ïîêàçàíèÿì) èëè ìð/êò â ñîñóäèñòîì ðåæèìå. Ýòî çàâèñèò îò êëèíèêè è òîãî, ÷åãî ìîæíî ïðè ýòîì ñäåëàòü. Äàæå àíãèîãðàôèÿ ïðîâîäèòñÿ ñ ðàçíûìè äîñòóïàìè. Ìíå âîò åùå íå äàþò ïîêîÿ ïîëÿ çðåíèÿ íà öâåòà, ê êîòîðûì îïðåäåëåííîå âðåìÿ (êîãäà äîëáàëè ãèíåêîëîãè áåñïëîäíûõ æåíùèí) ÿ îòíîñèëàñü ñ ïðåçðåíèåì. Îäíàêî, â ÍÈÈ íåéðîõèðóðãèè, êóäà ïåðèîäè÷åñêè ñ ìîëüáîé âçûâàþ î ïîìîùè, ýòî, çàìåòüòå, íà äóãîâîì ïåðèìåòðå(âîâñå íå îò áåçäåíåæüÿ) - ýòîìó èññëåäîâàíèþ ïðèäàþò áîëüøîå çíà÷åíèå ( èíà÷å òàê ïåäàíòè÷íî äîëãî, ïî ìîåé âåðñèè, íå îïðåäåëÿëè) - êîëáî÷êîâûé àïèëëî-Ìñ ïó÷îê. |
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Öèòàòà:
Ïàðäîí. |
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ìíå îáåùàëè îòñêàíèðîâàòü " ãëàçíûå" ëèñòû èç êíèãè "òîïè÷åñêàÿ íåâðîëîãèÿ" - òàêîé ó ìåíÿ íåò - òàì íàïèñàíî, ÷òî åæåëè î÷àã â çàòûëî÷íîé äîëå, òî íå ãèìèàíîïñèÿ, à êâàäðàíòû âûïàäàþò. Ãåìèàíîïñèÿ äëÿ ëó÷èñòîñòè. Êàê âûøëþò - ñþäà ïðèëîæó.
Ïðîñòî áåç åùå êàêîé-ëèáî êëèíèêè - íó íå ïîíèìàþ! |
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Åñëè ïî òåðìèíàì - ãåìèàíîïñèÿ êâàäðàíòíàÿ èëè ãåìèàíîïñèÿ ïîëíàÿ. Íî ïóòàíèöà â ïðèìåíÿåìûõ òåðìèíàõ èìååò ìåñòî â ñòàòüÿõ áûòü.
Âîò çäåñü ñìîòðåëè ñïîñîáíîñòü âîäèòü àâòîìîáèëü, çàîäíî ïðèâîäÿò öèôðû: post-stroke Homonymous field defects were found in 10 (16%) patients, with 50% of these being hermianopia and 50% quadrantanopia Åù¸: patients with occipital infarction are more likely to have a VFD as their only disability - ñðåäè ïàöèåíòîâ ñ îêöèïèòàëüíûì èøåìè÷åñêèì èíñóëüòîì áÎëüøàÿ äîëÿ èìåëà äåôåêò ïîëÿ çðåíèÿ â êà÷åñòâå åäèíñòâåííîãî ñòîéêîãî ïîâðåæäåíèÿ ïîñëå èíñóëüòà. Âîò åù¸ èíòåðåñíî: Homonymous hemianopia in stroke Journal of neuroophthalmology the official journal of the North American NeuroOphthalmology Society (2006) Volume: 26, Issue: 3, Pages: 180-183 PubMed: 16966935 Abstract BACKGROUND: Previous reports have suggested that most cases of homonymous hemianopia (HH) are caused by occipital stroke. However, these reports have not always been supported by brain imaging. METHODS: We reviewed the medical records of all patients seen in our unit between 1989 and 2004 who had HH documented by formal perimetry or confrontation visual fields and had undergone brain imaging. HHs were divided into those caused by stroke and by non-stroke conditions. The clinical and visual field characteristics were compared in the two groups. RESULTS: Among 850 patients with 902 HHs, 629 (69.7%) resulted from stroke, of which 531 (84.4%) were from infarction and 98 (15.6%) from primary intraparenchymal hemorrhage. Non-stroke causes included head trauma (123), brain tumor (102), neurosurgical procedures (22), multiple sclerosis (13), and miscellaneous conditions (13). Occipital lesions most commonly resulted from stroke. The configuration of the HH did not predict where in the retrochiasmal visual pathway the responsible lesion lay. CONCLUSIONS: Ischemic stroke causes most HHs from lesions in the occipital lobe that generally do not produce other neurologic manifestations. The configuration of the HH does not predict the location of the lesion within the retrochiasmal visual pathway. - Èøåìè÷åñêèé èíñóøëüò ÿâëÿåòñÿ íàèáîëåå ÷àñòîé ïðè÷èíîé ãåìèàíîïñèè ïðè î÷àãå â çàòûëî÷íîé äîëå, êîòîðûé (î÷àã) â áîëüøèíñòâå ñëó÷àåâ íå äà¸ò áîëüøå íèêàêèõ íåâðîëîãè÷åñêèõ ðàññòðîéñòâ. Êîíôèãóðàöèÿ ãåìèàíîïñèè íå äà¸ò èíôîðìàöèè î êîíêðåòíîé ëîêàëèçàöèè î÷àãà íà ðåòðîõèàçìàëüíîì îòðåçêå çðèòåëüíîãî àíàëèçàòîðà. Íåñêîëüêî äèâíî, êîíå÷íî. |
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ñïàñèáî! ß óæå ïî÷èòûâàþ ïåðåêà÷åííóþ èç èí-òà êíèæå÷êó - èíòåðåñíî òî êàê!
È ñåãîäíÿ îïÿòü - æåíùèíà ñ "óïëûâàþùèì çðåíèåì" - ãëàçíîé ñòàòóñ íå ïðèäðàòüñÿ, ïîëå, ïðàâäà, îðèåíòèðîâî÷íûì ìåòîäîì è öâåòà ïîïóòûâàåò - íî òàì - îäíà íåâðîëîãè÷åñêàÿ ñèìïòîìàòèêà - øàòàåò, íå ïîìíèò òî, ÷òî áûëî ÷àñ íàçàä. Âñå ðàçâèëîñü îñòðî, â 1 äåíü, â àíàìíåçå ÃÁ, ÑÄ (ÍÀ ÌÅÒÔÎÐÌÈÍÅ), íà ÌÐÒ - ìåëêèå òóäà-ñþäà î÷àæêè. Íåâðîëîãè - ýíöåôàëîïàòèÿ ñîñ. ãåíåçà.... Ïîäîæäó ïîäðóæêó íåâðîëîãà ê ñðåäå - îíà óìíàÿ. |
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Âñåãäà ñ÷èòàë ðåíòãåíîãðàôèþ òóðåöêîãî ñåäëà ìåòîäîì ñ âåñüìà íèçêîé ÷óâñòâèòåëüíîñòüþ. Ñåé÷àñ çàãëÿíóë â ïàáìåä, òàê âîò, äàæå àôðîàôðèêàíöû ñ÷èòàþò ïðèìåðíî òàê æå: [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
Òàê ÷òî ïðè îáíàðóæåíèè äåôåêòà ïîëåé çðåíèÿ, ïðåäïîëàãàþùåãî íåâðîëîãè÷åñêóþ ñèìïòîìàòèêó, è ïðè èñêëþ÷åíèè ãëàçíîé ïàòîëîãèè, íàäî ïðîñòî íàïðàâèòü ïàöèåíòà ê íåâðîëîãó, îïèñàâ îôòàëüìîëîãè÷åñêèé ñòàòóñ è ñâî¸ ìíåíèå. Íåâðîëîã óæå áóäåò ñìîòðåòü íà èçìåíåíèÿ â íåâð. ñòàòóñå â öåëîì, îöåíèâàòü ñîìàòè÷åñêèé ôîí è íàçíà÷àòü èññëåäîâàíèÿ, ñðåäè êîòîðûõ îñíîâíîå ìåñòî çàíèìàåò ÌÐÒ ìîçãà. À ïàöèåíòû ñ èíñóëüòàìè, ïðîÿâëÿþùèìèñÿ òîëüêî èëè ïî÷òè òîëüêî ãåìèàíîïñèåé - íå òàêàÿ óæ ðåäêîñòü. |
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×àñòî èíñóëüòû ïðîÿâëÿþòñÿ òîëüêî ãëàçîäâèãàòåëüíûìè íàðóøåíèÿìè.Íåäàâíî êîíñóëüòèðîâàëà îäíó ñòàðóøêó,ãîâîðèò,âíåçàïíî ðàçâèëîñü êîñîãëàçèå,æàëóåòñÿ íà äâîåíèå.Ïðè îñìîòðå-ñõîäÿùååñÿ ïðàâîñòîðîííåå êîñîãëàçèå,ïàññèâíî àëüòåðíèðóåò,âûðàæåííîé àìáëèîïèè íåò.Íåâðîëîã äðóãîé ñèìïòîìàòèêè,êðîìå ñîïóòñòâóþùåãî ìíåñòè÷åñêîãî ñíèæåíèÿ,íå íàõîäèò.Âûñòàâèëà èíñóëüò,äâå íåäåëè ïàöèåíòêà ïîëó÷àëà ñîñóäèñòóþ òåðàïèþ-áåç ýôôåêòà.Ïîòîì âûÿñíèëîñü,÷òî ñûí è âíó÷êà ýòîé áîëüíîé-êîñîãëàçûå ñ ðîæäåíèÿ.Ïîäñêàæèòå,êàêèå åù¸ ïðèçíàêè (êðîìå íàëè÷èÿ äâîåíèÿ)ïîçâîëÿþò îòëè÷èòü âíåçàïíî ðàçâèâøååñÿ êîñîãëàçèå îò âðîæäåííîãî ó áîëüíûõ ñ ÄÝÏ 3ñò.?Ìðò èññëåäîâàíèå ýòîé ïàöèåíòêå íå äîñòóïíî.
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