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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
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Ñòàðûé 13.12.2004, 19:12
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. Íàòàëüÿ Ï. âíå ôîðóìà
Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.11.2004
Ãîðîä: íåò
Ñîîáùåíèé: 13,066
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,101 ðàç(à) çà 845 ñîîáùåíèé
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íèêòî íè÷åãî íå ðàññêàçûâàë î Õåëüñèíêñêîé äåêëàðàöèè? Î ïðàâèëàõ ïðîâåäåíèÿ êëèíè÷åñêèõ èñïûòàíèé (GCP)?
À åñëè áû Âàøåìó ðåáåíêó ÷òî-òî äàâàëè áåç Âàøåãî âåäîìà äëÿ ýêñïåðèìåíòà? Âû áû âîçìóòèëèñü. À çà ýòèõ êòî çàñòóïèòñÿ?
Êòî çíàåò, ìîæåò êîìó ïîìîæåò... À êîìó íàâðåäèò? À êîìó íàâðåäèò íå âñêîðîñòè ïîñëå ïðèìåíåíèÿ ïðåïàðàòà, à ÷åðåç íåñêîëüêî ëåò? Âû áóäåòå îòñëåæèâàòü? Âû âîçüìåòå îòâåòñòâåííîñòü çà ýòèõ áðîøåííûõ äåòèøåê?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #17  
Ñòàðûé 13.12.2004, 20:15
Dr. W.N. Dr. W.N. âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 12.12.2003
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,157 ðàç(à) çà 1,942 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr. W.N. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. W.N. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. W.N. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. W.N. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. W.N. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. W.N. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. W.N. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. W.N. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. W.N. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. W.N. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. W.N. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïåðåä çàùèòîé âñå ðàâíî íàäî áóäåò áðàòü áóìàæêó ýòè÷åñêîãî êîìèòåòà (êàæåòñÿ òàê íàçûâàåòñÿ). Ýòî ðàç. Ïîòîì, ÿ íå ñîâñåì ïîíÿë íàñ÷åò êîíòèíãåíòà. Ó Âàñ åñòü êàêàÿ-òî ñòàòèñòèêà ïî ýòîìó äîìó ðåáåíêà? Òàì åñòü ïðîôèëü? ×òî Âû áóäåòå ëå÷èòü îëèãîïåïòèäàìè (êàêèìè?) è ÷òî çíà÷èò "ìîæíî ïðîáîâàòü âñå"? Âàì ÄÅÉÑÒÂÈÒÅËÜÍÎ âñå ðàâíî? Îäíèì áåçäîìíèêîì áîëüøå, îäíèì ìåíüøå? Òåìà, ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, áóäåò ôàêòè÷åñêè "Ïðèìåíåíèå ïîòåíöèàëüíî îïàñíûõ ïðåïàðàòîâ ñ íåäîêàçàííîé ýôôåêòèâíîñòüþ ïðè âñåõ áîëåçíÿõ"? È ýòî ðàäè íåñêîëüêèõ ñîòåí ê çàðïëàòå çà ñòåïåíü? Îáúÿñíèòå, ìîæåò áûòü ÿ Âàñ íåäîïîíÿë.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 13.12.2004, 22:09
Àâàòàð äëÿ Aminazinka
Aminazinka Aminazinka âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîë÷àëèâîå ïðèâèäåíèå
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 25.12.2003
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 620 ðàç(à) çà 557 ñîîáùåíèé
Aminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAminazinka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Óâàæàåìàÿ Ñëàííà!
Äëÿ Âàøåãî ñïîêîéíîãî íî÷íîãî ñíà - ïî÷èòàéòå áèîýòèêó è óïîìÿíóòûå çäåñü äîêóìåíòû ïî ïðàâèëàì ïðîâåäåíèÿ êëèíè÷åñêèõ èñïûòàíèé. ×èñòûå ðóêè íèêîìó åùå íå ïîìåøàëè, à ðåïóòàöèÿ äîêòîðà Ìåíãåëå íå ñòîèò òîãî, ÷òîáû åé çàâèäîâàòü.
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #19  
Ñòàðûé 14.12.2004, 21:15
slanna slanna âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 11.12.2004
Ãîðîä: ÑÏá
Ñîîáùåíèé: 12
slanna ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò îòâðàòèòåëüíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Angry

Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Dr. W.N.
Ïåðåä çàùèòîé âñå ðàâíî íàäî áóäåò áðàòü áóìàæêó ýòè÷åñêîãî êîìèòåòà (êàæåòñÿ òàê íàçûâàåòñÿ). Ýòî ðàç. Ïîòîì, ÿ íå ñîâñåì ïîíÿë íàñ÷åò êîíòèíãåíòà. Ó Âàñ åñòü êàêàÿ-òî ñòàòèñòèêà ïî ýòîìó äîìó ðåáåíêà? Òàì åñòü ïðîôèëü? ×òî Âû áóäåòå ëå÷èòü îëèãîïåïòèäàìè (êàêèìè?) è ÷òî çíà÷èò "ìîæíî ïðîáîâàòü âñå"? Âàì ÄÅÉÑÒÂÈÒÅËÜÍÎ âñå ðàâíî? Îäíèì áåçäîìíèêîì áîëüøå, îäíèì ìåíüøå? Òåìà, ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, áóäåò ôàêòè÷åñêè "Ïðèìåíåíèå ïîòåíöèàëüíî îïàñíûõ ïðåïàðàòîâ ñ íåäîêàçàííîé ýôôåêòèâíîñòüþ ïðè âñåõ áîëåçíÿõ"? È ýòî ðàäè íåñêîëüêèõ ñîòåí ê çàðïëàòå çà ñòåïåíü? Îáúÿñíèòå, ìîæåò áûòü ÿ Âàñ íåäîïîíÿë.
Óâàæàåìûé äîêòîð! ß íå äóìàëà ,÷òî ìîé âîïðîñ âûçîâåò ñòîëüêî íàðåêàíèé è íåäîâëüñòâà.ß åãî çàäàëà äëÿ òîãî ÷òî áû ïîñîâåòîâàòüñÿ, à Âû ìåíÿ ïðîñòî !óíè÷òîæàåòå!, êàê áóäòî ÿ æèâîäåð.Äà, åñëè áû ìíå áûëî íàïëåâàòü íà ýòèõ äåòåé,òî ÿ â Äîìå ðåáåíêà íå ðàáîòàëà áû è âîîáùå íå ðàáîòàëà áû â äåòñêîé ñåòè.Ýý - õ!! Ìíå êàæêòñÿ, ÷òî âû íå ñîâåòóåòå, à ðàñïåêàåòå ìåíÿ êàê íàøêîäèâøóþ äåâ÷îíêó.Î÷åíü æàëü.Íå äóìàëà, ÷òî òàê ïðîèçîéäåò!!!

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
Algor îäîáðèë(à): ß âåðþ, ÷òî âû èñïðàâèòåñü
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #20  
Ñòàðûé 14.12.2004, 21:35
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. Íàòàëüÿ Ï. âíå ôîðóìà
Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.11.2004
Ãîðîä: íåò
Ñîîáùåíèé: 13,066
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,101 ðàç(à) çà 845 ñîîáùåíèé
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ìîæåò ïîïðîáîâàòü ñïëàíèðîâàòü äðóãîå èññëåäîâàíèå? Áåç ìåäèêàìåíòîçíîãî âìåøàòåëüñòâà (è ÁÀÄ). Íàïðèìåð îïèñàòåëüíîå, ýïèäåìèîëîãè÷åñêîå.
Åñëè õîòèòå, îáðàòèòåñü çà êîíñóëüòàöèåé â Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðãñêîå ãîðîäñêîå îòäåëåíèå îáùåñòâà ñïåöèàëèñòîâ äîêàçàòåëüíîé ìåäèöèíû ([Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ])
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #21  
Ñòàðûé 14.12.2004, 21:47
Rodionov Rodionov âíå ôîðóìà
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 28.02.2004
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 9,764
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 804 ðàç(à) çà 733 ñîîáùåíèé
Rodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò slanna
Óâàæàåìûé äîêòîð! ß íå äóìàëà ,÷òî ìîé âîïðîñ âûçîâåò ñòîëüêî íàðåêàíèé è íåäîâëüñòâà.ß åãî çàäàëà äëÿ òîãî ÷òî áû ïîñîâåòîâàòüñÿ, à Âû ìåíÿ ïðîñòî !óíè÷òîæàåòå!, êàê áóäòî ÿ æèâîäåð.Äà, åñëè áû ìíå áûëî íàïëåâàòü íà ýòèõ äåòåé,òî ÿ â Äîìå ðåáåíêà íå ðàáîòàëà áû è âîîáùå íå ðàáîòàëà áû â äåòñêîé ñåòè.Ýý - õ!! Ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî âû íå ñîâåòóåòå, à ðàñïåêàåòå ìåíÿ êàê íàøêîäèâøóþ äåâ÷îíêó.Î÷åíü æàëü.Íå äóìàëà, ÷òî òàê ïðîèçîéäåò!!!
Óâàæàåìàÿ slanna, êàê ãîâîðèë îäèí ïðîôåññîð, íà çàùèòå êàíäèäàòñêîé äèññåðòàöèè êàæäûé ÷åðíûé øàð - ýòî ÷åðíûé øàð Âàøåìó íàó÷íîìó ðóêîâîäèòåëþ, íà çàùèòå äîêòîðñêîé - Âàì ëè÷íî.
Êàíîíû íàó÷íîé äåÿòåëüíîñòè ïðåäñìàòðèâàþò äî íà÷àëà çàíÿòèÿ íàóêîé (èññëåäîâàíèå ýôôåêòà íåâåäîìîãî âåùåñòâà íà íåâåäîìîå ñóùåñòâî) îçíàêîìëåíèå ñ ïðèíöèïàìè è ïðàâèëàìè íàó÷íîãî èññëåäîâàíèÿ.
Êîëëåãè èçî âñåõ ñèë ïîäñòêàçûâàþò Âàì, ÷òî ñïëàíèðîâàííîå òàêèì îáðàçîì èññëåäîâàíèå íàðóøàåò íåêèå ýòè÷åñêèå è ìåòîäîëîãè÷åñêèå ïðèíöèïû ïîñòðîåíèÿ íàó÷íîãî èññëåäîâàíèÿ.
Äîïóñòèì, Âû íàïèøåòå äèññåðòàöèþ è ïðåäñòàâèòå åå ê çàùèòå. À âäðóã â Ó÷åíîì ñîâåòå íàéäåòñÿ ÷åëîâåê, êîòîðûé Âàì âî âñåóñëûøàíüå ñêàæåò òî æå, ÷òî çäåñü Âàì ãîâîðèò ïðîôåññîð, ÷ëåí-êîðð. ÐÀÌÍ Ãàëèíà Àôàíàñüåâíà Ìåëüíè÷åíêî è äðóãèå ìåíåå èìåíèòûå êîëëåãè. Ïðåäñòàâëÿåòå, êàê áóäåò îáèäíî!

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Íå îáèæàéòåñü, ïîêà ýòî ÷åðíûå øàðû íå ñòîëüêî â Âàø îãîðîä, ñêîëüêî â îãîðîä òåõ, êòî ïðåäëàãàåò Âàì ïðîâåñòè ïîäîáíîå èññëåäîâàíèå.

Óäà÷è Âàì â Âàøåé áóäóùåé íàó÷íîé äåÿòåëüíîñòè!

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
Algor îäîáðèë(à):
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 14.12.2004, 21:53
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,786
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,421 ðàç(à) çà 31,766 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Óâàæàåìàÿ Ñëàííà!

Óæå âñåì íàäîåë íà ôîðóìå ñ ýòîé òåìàòèêîé (äà ïðîñòÿò êîëëåãè ìåíÿ åùå ðàç), íî åñëè î÷åíü õî÷åòñÿ âìåøàòüñÿ, òî ïî÷åìó áû íå ñêîððåêòèðîâàòü èì æåëåçíûé áàëàíñ: âåäü áåç ìàòåðèíñêîãî âñêàðìëèâàíèÿ ïî âñåìó ìèðó ðåêîìåíäóåòñÿ ñ ïåðâûõ äíåé âîñïîëíåíèå åãî äåôèöèòà? À ó Âàñ â ÄÄ ýòî ïðàêòèêóåòñÿ? Æåëåçîäåôèöèò ëåãêî âûÿâëÿåòñÿ, íå ñëîæíî êîððåêòèðóåòñÿ, à ïîñëåäñòâèÿ åãî íàëè÷èÿ â äåòñêîì âîçðàñòå äëÿ ÍÑ âåñüìà êàòàñòðîôè÷íû è íå âñåãäà îáðàòèìû:

Pediatr Neurol. 2002 Aug;27(2):85-92.
Neurologic manifestations of iron deficiency in childhood.
Yager JY, Hartfield DS.
Department of Pediatrics, University of Saskatchewan;, Saskatoon, Canada

Iron deficiency is a common disorder in pediatric patients. Although the most common manifestation is that of anemia, iron deficiency is frequently the source of a host of neurologic disorders presenting to general pediatric neurologic practices. These disorders include developmental delay, stroke, breath-holding episodes, pseudotumor cerebri, and cranial nerve palsies. Although frequent, the identification of iron deficiency as part of the differential diagnosis in these disorders is uncommon and frequently goes untreated. The purpose of the current review is to highlight what is understood regarding iron deficiency and it's underlying pathophysiology as it relates to the brain, and the association of iron deficiency with common neurologic pediatric disease.

• Introduction
• Iron deficiency
• Brain iron: investigations in animal models
• Transport and storage of iron
• Iron deficiency in the developing brain
• Myelination
• Neurochemical effects
• Cognitive and motor function in animal models
• Neurologic sequelae in humans
• Developmental abnormalities
• Iron deficiency anemia and infant development
• Marginal iron deficiency and infant development
• Children and adolescents with iron deficiency
• Pediatric stroke
• Breath-holding spells
• Pseudotumor cerebri
• Conclusions
• References

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Ñòàðûé 14.12.2004, 22:08
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Ñòàðûé 14.12.2004, 22:16
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Ãîðîä: ÑÏá
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Ëþáèìûé ó÷åíèê ïðîô. Ïðåîáðàæåíñêîãî, ä-ð Áîðìåíòàëü, óæå ïðèñëàë íàì ïîçäðàâëåíèÿ ïî ïîâîäó òðèóìôàëüíîãî øåñòâèÿ ëþáèìîãî äåòèùà åãî ó÷èòåëÿ- âûòÿæåê...Ñïåöèàëüíî äëÿ âðà÷åé èç äàëåêî Òèáåòà ïî çàÿâêàì ïîâòîðþ- ÷èòàéòå íà ñàéòå ïèñüìî ó÷åíèêà Âåëèêîãî Ó÷èòåëÿ...
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