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Ñòàðûé 11.10.2012, 16:34
Àâàòàð äëÿ shok
shok shok âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
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shok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåshok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #62  
Ñòàðûé 11.10.2012, 21:15
Yariko Yariko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,141 ðàç(à) çà 2,050 ñîîáùåíèé
Yariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYariko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 12.10.2012, 16:16
Àâàòàð äëÿ Gilarov
Gilarov Gilarov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
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Gilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
ÌÐÒ ãîëîâû íàäî áû, ÿ òîæ äóìàþ. À íà ôîòêå â ïàñïîðòå çðà÷êè òîæå ðàçíûå?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 14.10.2012, 14:02
mizin1 mizin1 âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 113 ðàç(à) çà 105 ñîîáùåíèé
mizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Óâàæàåìûé alexsel1981 äàâàë ññûëêó [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ], ãäå óêàçàíû 64 âîçìîæíûõ äèàãíîçà.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 15.10.2012, 14:41
Àâàòàð äëÿ dmblok
dmblok dmblok âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Êàíäèäàò â âåòåðàíû ôîðóìà
      
 
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dmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âñå äîâîëüíî áûñòðî ïðîøëî. Åñòü îñíîâàíèÿ, äóìàòü, ÷òî ïðè ðàçâåäåíèè àòðîïèíà, þíàÿ ìåäñåñòðà, êàêèì- òî îáðàçîì ïîïàëà ñåáå â ãëàç ðàñòâîðîì.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 16.10.2012, 18:51
mizin1 mizin1 âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 113 ðàç(à) çà 105 ñîîáùåíèé
mizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íåäàâíî áûë íà îäíîì ñåìèíàðå ïî àíåâðèçìàì àîðòû. Ó÷èë íàñ äîêòîð èç Ñëîâàêèè íà àíãë ÿçûêå. Î÷åíü õîðîøèé áûë ïåðåâîä. Òàêîå âïå÷àòëåíèå áûëî, ÷òî ïåðåâîä÷èöà ñàìà ñòåíòèðóåò àîðòû. Äàæå â ïåðåðûâàõ îíà ê íåêîòîðûì àíãë ñëîâàì ïûòàëàñü ïîäîáðàòü àíàëîãè. Îâåðñàéçèíã? Êàê áû, ãîâîðèò, îäíèì ñëîâîì íà ðóññêèé ïåðåâåñòè? ß ÷òî-òî ïîøóòèë íàñ÷åò ïåðåáîðà. Îíà ñêàçàëà, ÷òî â àíãë ÿçûêå ëåãêî ñòðîèòü íîâûå ñëîâà, ïðîñòî èñïîëüçóÿ óæå èçâåñòíûå. ß îòâåòèë, ÷òî ó íàñ òîæå ïðîñòî, - áåðåøü èìïîðòíîå ñëîâî è âñòàâëÿåøü â ðå÷ü áåç âñÿêèõ ïåðåâîäîâ, äàæå åñëè ðîäíîé àíàëîã åñòü óäîáíûé. Âîò, íàïðèìåð, ñëîâî ñàéçèíã.  íàøåì óçêîì ïðîôåññèîíàëüíîì ñîîáùåñòâå íèêòî óæå íå ñêàæåò ðàñ÷åò èëè ïðîìåð èëè åùå êàê-òî. Îíà î÷åíü óäèâèëàñü è ñïðîñèëà íàøåãî ó÷èòåëÿ, êàê â ðàçãîâîðå äâóõ ñëîâàöêèõ ðàäèîëîãîâ î ñàéçèíãå îíè íàçîâóò ýòî ñëîâî? «Meranie» - îòâåòèë îí, íå çàäóìûâàÿñü.

Èíòåðåñíî, ýòî íàøå äîñòîèíñòâî èëè íåäîñòàòîê? ß íå ïðî òî, ÷òî ÿêîáû ðóññêèé ÿçûê ãèáíåò, íóæíî ñïàñàòü è âñå òàêîå.

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audovichenko îäîáðèë(à): ìåðåíèå? ïî÷òè ïî-ðóññêè
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #67  
Ñòàðûé 17.10.2012, 19:28
mizin1 mizin1 âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
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mizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íàäåþñü íå çà ãðåõè çàìå÷àòåëüíûé ñïåöèàëèñò è õîðîøèé ÷åëîâåê drserg âûïàë èç ñîîáùåñòâà âðà÷åé ÐÌÑ.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 17.10.2012, 20:36
Àâàòàð äëÿ audovichenko
audovichenko audovichenko âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
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audovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaudovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íåò, êîíå÷íî. Ïðîñòî äàâíî íå ïèñàë - äàëüøå ñðàáîòàëà àâòîìàòè÷åñêàÿ ôóíêöèÿ .

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mizin1 îäîáðèë(à): À, íó òîãäà ïîäåëîì åìó.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 19.10.2012, 21:26
rsp rsp âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
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rsp ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìårsp ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìårsp ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìårsp ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìårsp ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìårsp ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìårsp ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìårsp ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìårsp ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âåá-æèçíü íå ìåíåå æåñòîêà, ÷åì ðåàëüíàÿ: ïàðó äíåé íå ïîòâèòåëñÿ, íå ïîôåéñáó÷èëñÿ è âñ¸... êèðäûê íåò ÷åëîâåêà.

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
audovichenko îäîáðèë(à): Ðîì, çäåñü âñå ãîðàçäî ìåäëèòåëüíåå - "âûáðîñ" èç êðàñíûõ ïðîèñõîäèò ÷åðåç 6 ìåñÿöåâ íåïèñàíèÿ
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #70  
Ñòàðûé 20.10.2012, 08:28
Àâàòàð äëÿ Soshurik
Soshurik Soshurik âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 3 ðàç(à) çà 3 ñîîáùåíèé
Soshurik ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò îòëè÷íóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ðîìà, êàê òû ïðàâ! Ïîëó÷àåòñÿ æèçíü âîîáùå íåïðîñòà? Ñåíåêà â ñâîèõ ïèñüìàõ ëåò 1 500 íàçàä íàìåêàë ÷òî èìåííî ÝÒÎ ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïðîáëåìîé... À òóò åùå "êèðäûê" - è íåò ÷åëîâåêà.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #71  
Ñòàðûé 21.10.2012, 22:10
Àâàòàð äëÿ drserg
drserg drserg âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 05.03.2007
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 15 ðàç(à) çà 12 ñîîáùåíèé
drserg ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådrserg ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådrserg ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò audovichenko Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Íåò, êîíå÷íî. Ïðîñòî äàâíî íå ïèñàë - äàëüøå ñðàáîòàëà àâòîìàòè÷åñêàÿ ôóíêöèÿ .
À àâòîìàòè÷åñêàÿ ôóíêöèÿ ïðåäóïðåäèòü íå ìîãåò?
Âîò è Äåäîâ ìíå âñå âðåìÿ ãîâîðèò ÷òî-òî òû íå ïèøåøü...

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
audovichenko îäîáðèë(à): Íó íàïèøè àäìèíó, ÷òî õî÷åøü îïÿòü ïîêðàñíåòü
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #72  
Ñòàðûé 13.11.2012, 17:21
mizin1 mizin1 âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.07.2009
Ãîðîä: Õàíòû-Ìàíñèéñê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 789
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 5
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 113 ðàç(à) çà 105 ñîîáùåíèé
mizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïðîäîëæàþ ôëóäèòü ïðî ðóññêèé ÿçûê.

Íåäàâíî íàïèñàë íà ñàéò ÃÐÀÌÎÒÀ.ÐÓ âîïðîñ. È, àõ, êàêîé óäàð!

"Çäðàâñòâóéòå! Ðåíòãåíõèðóðãèÿ ýòî ìîÿ ñïåöèàëüíîñòü. Èìåííî òàêîå íàïèñàíèå ñëîâà ìíå áîëüøå íðàâèòñÿ. Íåñêîëüêî ëåò íàçàä ìíå ïîïàëàñü ñòàòüÿ ñïåöèàëèñòà ïî ðóññêîìó ÿçûêó â íàó÷íîì æóðíàëå ïî íàøåé ñïåöèàëüíîñòè. Îí óêàçàë, ÷òî òàêîå íàïèñàíèå âïîëíå âîçìîæíî, íî íå îáúÿñíèë ïî÷åìó, õîòÿ çàìåòèë, ÷òî îáúÿñíåíèå ó íåãî åñòü. Ê ñîæàëåíèþ íå ìîãó íàéòè ýòó ñòàòüþ. Áîëüøàÿ ÷àñòü âðà÷åé ïèøåò ÷åðåç ñîåäèíèòåëüíóþ ãëàñíóþ "ðåíòãåíîõèðóðãèÿ".  òàêîì âèäå ýòî ñëîâî ó ìåíÿ âûçûâàåò îòòîðæåíèå. ßíäåêñ âûäàåò ïðèìåðíî â äâà ðàçà áîëüøå ññûëîê íà ðåíòãåíîõèðóðãèþ ÷åì íà ðåíòãåíõèðóðãèþ. Åñòü åùå ñîâñåì ðåäêîå óïîòðåáëåíèå ÷åðåç äåôèñ "ðåíòãåí-õèðóðãèÿ". Êàêîå íàïèñàíèå Âû ñ÷èòàåòå ïðàâèëüíûì? Êàêèå àðãóìåíòû ìîãó ÿ ïðèâåñòè êîëëåãàì äëÿ çàùèòû ñâîåãî ëþáèìîãî âàðèàíòà?"

Îòâåò ñïðàâî÷íîé ñëóæáû ðóññêîãî ÿçûêà:

" îðôîãðàôè÷åñêîì ñëîâàðå åñòü ðåíòãåíîòåðàïèÿ è ðåíòãåíîäèàãíîñòèêà (ñ ôèêñèðóåìûì âàðèàíòîì ðåíòãåí-äèàãíîñòèêà). Ïî àíàëîãèè ñëèòíî è ñ áóêâîé Î äîëæíî ïèñàòüñÿ ñëîâî ðåíòãåíîõèðóðãèÿ (êàê âàðèàíò - ðåíòãåí-õèðóðãèÿ)."
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #73  
Ñòàðûé 09.03.2013, 19:45
mizin1 mizin1 âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.07.2009
Ãîðîä: Õàíòû-Ìàíñèéñê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 789
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 5
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 113 ðàç(à) çà 105 ñîîáùåíèé
mizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âîò êàê ôèçèê ïèøåò î òîì, ÷åì ìû çàíèìàåìñÿ. Ñòàòüÿ â î÷åíü óâàæàåìîì æóðíàëå íàçûâàåòñÿ "10 ôàêòîâ î ðåíòãåíîâñêèõ ëó÷àõ".

[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #74  
Ñòàðûé 31.01.2014, 22:07
mizin1 mizin1 âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.07.2009
Ãîðîä: Õàíòû-Ìàíñèéñê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 789
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 5
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 113 ðàç(à) çà 105 ñîîáùåíèé
mizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âîò, êîëëåãè, ÷òî ñåãîäíÿ íàïèñàë óâàæàåìûé æóðíàë Lancet:

"Alcohol and mortality in Russia: prospective observational study of 151 000 adults

Prof David Zaridze MD, Sarah Lewington DPhil, Alexander Boroda MD, Ghislaine Scélo PhD, Prof Rostislav Karpov MD, Prof Alexander Lazarev MD, Irina Konobeevskaya MD, Vladimir Igitov MD, Tatiyana Terechova PhD, Prof Paolo Boffetta MD, Paul Sherliker BA, Xiangling Kong MSc, Gary Whitlock PhD, Jillian Boreham PhD, Paul Brennan PhD, Prof Richard Peto FRS

Background
Russian adults have extraordinarily high rates of premature death. Retrospective enquiries to the families of about 50 000 deceased Russians had found excess vodka use among those dying from external causes (accident, suicide, violence) and eight particular disease groupings. We now seek prospective evidence of these associations.

Methods
In three Russian cities (Barnaul, Byisk, and Tomsk), we interviewed 200 000 adults during 1999—2008 (with 12 000 re-interviewed some years later) and followed them until 2010 for cause-specific mortality. In 151 000 with no previous disease and some follow-up at ages 35—74 years, Poisson regression (adjusted for age at risk, amount smoked, education, and city) was used to calculate the relative risks associating vodka consumption with mortality. We have combined these relative risks with age-specific death rates to get 20-year absolute risks.

Findings
Among 57 361 male smokers with no previous disease, the estimated 20-year risks of death at ages 35—54 years were 16% (95% CI 15—17) for those who reported consuming less than a bottle of vodka per week at baseline, 20% (18—22) for those consuming 1—2·9 bottles per week, and 35% (31—39) for those consuming three or more bottles per week; trend p<0·0001. The corresponding risks of death at ages 55—74 years were 50% (48—52) for those who reported consuming less than a bottle of vodka per week at baseline, 54% (51—57) for those consuming 1—2·9 bottles per week, and 64% (59—69) for those consuming three or more bottles per week; trend p<0·0001. In both age ranges most of the excess mortality in heavier drinkers was from external causes or the eight disease groupings strongly associated with alcohol in the retrospective enquiries. Self-reported drinking fluctuated; of the men who reported drinking three or more bottles of vodka per week who were reinterviewed a few years later, about half (185 of 321) then reported drinking less than one bottle per week. Such fluctuations must have substantially attenuated the apparent hazards of heavy drinking in this study, yet self-reported vodka use at baseline still strongly predicted risk. Among male non-smokers and among females, self-reported heavy drinking was uncommon, but seemed to involve similar absolute excess risks.

Interpretation
This large prospective study strongly reinforces other evidence that vodka is a major cause of the high risk of premature death in Russian adults."

[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #75  
Ñòàðûé 31.01.2014, 22:57
mizin1 mizin1 âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.07.2009
Ãîðîä: Õàíòû-Ìàíñèéñê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 789
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 5
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 113 ðàç(à) çà 105 ñîîáùåíèé
mizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåmizin1 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
ß ïîëíûé òåêñò íå ñìîã íàéòè.

Îäíàêî âûâîä "This large prospective study strongly reinforces other evidence that vodka is a major cause of the high risk of premature death in Russian adults" î÷åíü õî÷åòñÿ ïðîêîììåíòèðîâàòü.

Ó÷åíûå îïðîñèëè â òðåõ ãîðîäàõ "200 000 adults during 1999—2008 (with 12 000 re-interviewed some years later)".
Ãðàäàöèè, êàê âû âèäèòå, ñëåäóþùèå:
- less than a bottle of vodka per week
- 1—2.9 bottles per week
- three or more bottles per week

ß ÷åëîâåê ïüþùèé ðåãóëÿðíî. Íî ñïðîñè ìåíÿ, ñêîëüêî ÿ ïüþ â íåäåëþ, ÿ íå îòâå÷ó îïðåäåëåííî. Òåì áîëåå, ÷òî ÿ ïüþ íå òîëüêî âîäêó.
Àëêîãîëèêîâ ÿ çíàþ òîæå íåìàëî. Íà èõ ìíåíèå î êîëè÷åñòâå âûïèòîãî ÿ áû òîæå íå ñòàë ïîëàãàòüñÿ. Èíòåðåñíî, êîãî îíè îïðàøèâàëè? ×òî-òî ìíå ïîäñêàçûâàåò, ÷òî íàïðèìåð Òîìñê íå ñàìûé ãèáëûé ãîðîä â Ðîññèè.

Äàëåå - "Self-reported drinking fluctuated; of the men who reported drinking three or more bottles of vodka per week who were reinterviewed a few years later, about half (185 of 321) then reported drinking less than one bottle per week". Ìîæåò áûòü ýòà ôðàçà ðàñ÷èòàíà íà çàïàäíîãî ÷èòàòåëÿ? Ó ìåíÿ îíà âûçûâàåò óëûáêó.

Ìîæåò áûòü àëêîãîëü ýòî è çëî. Ìîæåò áûòü âîäêà çëî îñîáåííîå. Ìîæåò áûòü îíà ïðè÷èíà âñåõ áåä íàøåé ñòðàíû. Íà âçãëÿä íåêîòîðûõ àâòîðîâ è æóðíàëîâ.
Íó äàâàéòå ïèòü âèñêè. ×åðåç 20 ëåò ñòàòüþ â Ëàíöåò îòïðàâèì ïðî êîíå÷íûå òî÷êè. Íàïå÷àòàþò?
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