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Àâàòàð äëÿ easl
easl easl âíå ôîðóìà
Âðà÷-èíôåêöèîíèñò
      
 
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easl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Çàêîí ïàðíûõ ñëó÷àåâ.

Ñåãîäíÿ. Äâå ìîëîäûå æåíùèíû 17 è 20 ëåò, ïåðâàÿ áåðåìåííîñòü, ó îáåèõ HBsAg+, HBeAg+, ÄÍÊ âèðóñà ãåïàòèòà  +, êîëè÷åñòâåííî >110 000 000 IU/ml, ALT - íîðìà. Ðèñê âíóòðèóòðîáíîãî çàðàæåíèÿ 70-90%.
Ó ïåðâîé (17ëåò) íåïîëíûå 5 ìåñÿöåâ, ó âòîðîé (20ëåò) -10 íåäåëü.
×òî ðåêîìåíäîâàòü, êîëëåãè?
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Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Þñèô Àëõàçîâ.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 16.11.2008, 18:57
DmitryTro DmitryTro âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 244 ðàç(à) çà 222 ñîîáùåíèé
DmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
À ÷òî òóò ïîðåêîìåíäóåøü - âûáîð æåñòêî îãðàíè÷åí.
Óáåäèòüñÿ (òîëüêî äëÿ ëè÷íîãî ñïîêîéñòâèÿ - ALT-N), ÷òî íåò êîèíôåêöèè HEV.
Îòñóòñòâèå ãèïåðòðàíñôåðàçåìèè ïîçâîëÿåò ðàññìàòðèâàòü ïðåðûâàíèå áåðåìåííîñòè (÷òî ìíå ëè÷íî âèäåòñÿ êàê âûáîð â ýòèõ ñëó÷àÿõ).
Ïðàêòè÷åñêè âñå ïðîòèâîâèðóñíûå ïðåïàðàòû êëàññà Ñ, êðîìå Telbivudine (B).
Òàê ÷òî, êðîìå ïîäðîáíîãî îáñóæäåíèÿ ñ ïàöèåíòêàìè èõ øàíñîâ è âîçìîæíîñòåé (ñ ó÷åòîì èõ ìîëîäîãî âîçðàñòà) íè÷åãî è íåò.

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
Dr. îäîáðèë(à):
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Ñòàðûé 16.11.2008, 18:57
Àâàòàð äëÿ qwerty
qwerty qwerty âíå ôîðóìà
ÑÏÅÖÈÀËÈÑÒ
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 10.11.2004
Ãîðîä: Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 23,093
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 6,815 ðàç(à) çà 6,488 ñîîáùåíèé
Çàïèñåé â äíåâíèêå: 15
qwerty ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåqwerty ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåqwerty ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåqwerty ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåqwerty ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåqwerty ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåqwerty ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåqwerty ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåqwerty ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåqwerty ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåqwerty ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íè÷åãî íå ðåêîìåíäîâàòü. Ñîîáùèòü îáåèì îá óðîâíå ðèñêà, ðàññêàçàòü î ïîñëåäñòâèÿõ äëÿ ðåáåíêà, è ïóñòü ñàìè ðåøàþò.
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Åëåíà Åâãåíüåâíà Êîðíàêîâà, ïàðàçèòîëîã.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 16.11.2008, 19:04
Àâàòàð äëÿ easl
easl easl âíå ôîðóìà
Âðà÷-èíôåêöèîíèñò
      
 
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Ãîðîä: Áàêó
Ñîîáùåíèé: 18,441
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 5,212 ðàç(à) çà 4,963 ñîîáùåíèé
easl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âñå ýòî ñäåëàë, îáúÿñíèë ìóæüÿì. Ñ 10-íåäåëüíîé áåðåìåííîñòüþ ïðîùå. À êàê ñ 5-ìåñÿ÷íîé þðèäè÷åñêè îôîðìëÿòü? Ãåïàòèò  íå ÿâëÿåòñÿ áåçóñëîâíûì ïîêàçàíèåì ê ïðåðûâàíèþ áåðåìåííîñòè.  êàêîé ôîðìå (ïðè ñîãëàñèè ñóïðóãîâ) ñëåäóåò îôîðìëÿòü þðèäè÷åñêè? Ãèíåêîëîãè ìîãóò ïîïðîñèòü ïèñüìåííîãî çàêëþ÷åíèÿ èíôåêöèîíèñòà.
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Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Þñèô Àëõàçîâ.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 16.11.2008, 19:08
Anton Verbine Anton Verbine âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 15.12.2006
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 168 ðàç(à) çà 155 ñîîáùåíèé
Anton Verbine ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnton Verbine ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnton Verbine ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnton Verbine ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnton Verbine ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnton Verbine ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnton Verbine ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnton Verbine ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnton Verbine ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnton Verbine ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnton Verbine ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
An option for highly viraemic

Xu, WM, Cui, CYT, Wang, L, et al. Efficacy and safety of lamivudine in late pregnancy for the prevention of mother-child transmission of hepatitis B: a multicentre, randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled study (abstract). Hepatology 2004; 40 (Suppl1); 272A.


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TI Lamivudine treatment during pregnancy to prevent perinatal transmission of hepatitis B virus infection.
AU van Zonneveld M; van Nunen AB; Niesters HG; de Man RA; Schalm SW; Janssen HL
SO J Viral Hepat. 2003 Jul;10(4):294-7.

Vertical transmission of hepatitis B virus (HBV) can occur occasionally despite vaccination of the child. This vaccination breakthrough has been associated with high maternal viraemia. We treated eight highly viraemic (HBV-DNA >/= 1.2 x 10(9) geq/mL) mothers with 150 mg of lamivudine daily during the last month of pregnancy. HBV-DNA, hepatitis B surface antigen (HBsAg), anti-HBs and anti-HBc of their offspring were measured at birth and at 3, 6 and 12 months, respectively. Twenty-four children, born to untreated HBsAg-positive mothers with HBV-DNA levels >/=1.2 x 10(9) geq/mL served as historical controls. All children received passive-active immunization at birth and were followed-up for 12 months. In the lamivudine group one of the eight children (12.5%) was still HBsAg and HBV-DNA positive at the age of 12 months. All other children seroconverted to anti-HBs and maintained seroprotection. In three children, HBV-DNA was temporarily detected by polymerase chain reaction. In the untreated historical control group, perinatal transmission occurred in seven of 25 children (28%). In highly viraemic HBsAg-positive mothers, reduction of viraemia by lamivudine therapy in the last month of pregnancy may be an effective and safe measure to reduce the risk of child vaccination breakthrough. This approach should be evaluated in a large controlled trial.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 16.11.2008, 19:15
DmitryTro DmitryTro âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.01.2006
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1,071
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 49
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 244 ðàç(à) çà 222 ñîîáùåíèé
DmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDmitryTro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò easl Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
...ñëåäóåò îôîðìëÿòü þðèäè÷åñêè?
Ìîãóò áûòü çàêîíîäàòåëüíûå ðàçíî÷òåíèÿ ìåæäó íàøèìè ñòðàíàìè (âîò óæ íå äóìàë, ÷òî äîæèâó äî òàêîãî).
Îôîðìëÿòü êîíñèëèóìîì. Ïðåäâàðèòåëüíî ïðîâåñòè áåñåäó ñ ãèíåêîëîãàìè (èç ñîâåòñêîãî ïðîøëîãî îíè ìîãóò áîÿòüñÿ ïîäõîäèòü ê ãåïàòèòíûì ïàöèåíòêàì, îæèäàÿ èõ "êàòàñòðîôè÷åñêîãî óõóäøåíèÿ") - íåò îñòðåéøåé ôàçû, íåò ïå÷åíî÷íîé íåäîñòàòî÷íîñòè (áèîõèìè÷åñêîãî îáîñòðåíèÿ). Ïðèâåñòè ìíîãî öèôð.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 16.11.2008, 19:22
Àâàòàð äëÿ easl
easl easl âíå ôîðóìà
Âðà÷-èíôåêöèîíèñò
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 05.02.2008
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easl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ñïàñèáî çà îòêëèê, êîëëåãè. Àíòîí, â ïîñëåäíåì òðèìåñòðå ëàìèâóäèí ðàçðåøåí, ÿ çíàþ. Íî çäåñü âèðóñíàÿ íàãðóçêà íå ïðîñòî âûñîêàÿ, à çàïðåäåëüíî âûñîêàÿ. Åñëè ïåðåâîäèòü â êîïèè/ìë, òî ýòè >110ìëí Õ 5,8 = >638ìëí/ìë, à æäàòü äî ïîñëåäíåãî òðèìåñòðà åùå äîëãî èëè î÷åíü äîëãî. Ýòî êîíå÷íî âàðèàíò íà ñëó÷àé îòêàçà ïðåðûâàòü. Ññûëêà âàæíàÿ!
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 16.11.2008, 19:26
Àâàòàð äëÿ easl
easl easl âíå ôîðóìà
Âðà÷-èíôåêöèîíèñò
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 05.02.2008
Ãîðîä: Áàêó
Ñîîáùåíèé: 18,441
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 5,212 ðàç(à) çà 4,963 ñîîáùåíèé
easl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Äìèòðèé, ó íàñ â öåíòðå, ïî ñ÷àñòüþ, ðàáîòàåò âìåíÿåìûé ãèíåêîëîã. Îíà-òî êàê ðàç íå áîèòñÿ, íî íàáëþäàåò êàê ðàç òó, ó êîòîðîé ìàëûé ñðîê. Ñ ýòèì âðà÷îì ÿ ïåðåãîâîðèë. Ïîäñòðàõîâûâàþñü â îòíîøåíèè äðóãîé ïàöèåíòêè.
Çàêîíîäàòåëüíûõ ðàñõîæäåíèé íåò. Ïîòîìó, ÷òî íåò ó íàñ ïîêà íèêàêèõ íîðìàòèâíûõ àêòîâ ïî âåäåíèþ ïàöèåíòîâ ñ âèðóñíûìè ãåïàòèòàìè Â è Ñ. Ìû ñ êîëëåãàìè ïîñëåäíèå äâà ìåñÿöà èõ ïèøåì ïî çàäàíèþ ÌÇ. Îðèåíòèðóåìñÿ íà çàðóáåæíûå ãàéäû, êîòîðûå íèêòî íå çàïðåùàë, íî è íå óòâåðæäàë.

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Ñòàðûé 21.11.2008, 16:36
DmitryTro DmitryTro âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
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Äîðîãîé Þñèô, äåðæèòå íàñ, ïî âîçìîæíîñòè, â êóðñå ýòîé ïàðû.
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Ñòàðûé 23.11.2008, 11:37
Àâàòàð äëÿ easl
easl easl âíå ôîðóìà
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easl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïîñòàðàþñü, ñàìîìó èíòåðåñíî.
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Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Þñèô Àëõàçîâ.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 29.11.2008, 18:11
Àâàòàð äëÿ easl
easl easl âíå ôîðóìà
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 18,441
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 5,212 ðàç(à) çà 4,963 ñîîáùåíèé
easl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Àêòèâíî ïîèíòåðåñîâàëñÿ.
Çâîíèë ìóæ 17-ëåòíåé (áåðåìåííîñòü 5 ìåñ.), ñàì ïàöàí åùå. "Íàø çíàêîìûé õèðóðã ãîâîðèò, ÷òî âñå ýòî - ãëóïîñòè, êåñàðíó â 6-7 ìåñÿöåâ, âñå áóäåò íîðìàëüíî, ïàòàìóøòî ðåáåíêó ïåðåäàåòñÿ îò ìàòåðè òîëüêî â åñòåñòâåííûõ ðîäàõ".
ß ïðåäëîæèë äîãîâîðèòüñÿ, ÷òî â ñëó÷àå íàëè÷èÿ èíôåêöèè ó íîâîðîæäåííîãî, åòîò äîêòîð åãî ëå÷åíèå áåðåò ñî âñåé îòâåòñòâåííîñòüþ íà ñåáÿ.
Äðóãàÿ ïàöèåíòêà ïîêà âíå ïîëÿ çðåíèÿ.
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 01.12.2008, 21:05
mziamzia mziamzia âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1 ðàç çà 1 ñîîáùåíèå
mziamzia î ðåïóòàöèè ýòîãî ó÷àñòíèêà íåëüçÿ ñêàçàòü íè÷åãî îïðåäåëåííîãî
óâàÿåìè Þñèô!ìíå êàæåòñà âè ìîæåòå òîëêî ðåêîìåíäîâàò ,ïîòîìó ÷òî íåò 100%-ãî ðèñêà ïåðåäà÷ îò ìàòåðè ê ðåáèîíêó.åñëè åòî ïåðâàèà áåðåìåííîñò è ïîñëå ïåðâîãî àáîðòà ó åòîè ñåìè íå áóäåò äåòåè òî îíè ,,èà òàê äóìàèó" âñèó éèçí áóäóò âàñ ïðåñëåäîâàò.
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Ñòàðûé 02.12.2008, 11:46
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 18,441
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easl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeasl ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
ß òàê è ñäåëàë, íî ê êîíñóëüòàöèè ïîäêëþ÷èë è ãèíåêîëîãà, ÷òîáû íå áðàòü íà ñåáÿ èçëèøíþþ îòâåòñòâåííîñòü.
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