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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
  #1  
Ñòàðûé 06.01.2007, 09:20
aaron aaron âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 14.12.2006
Ñîîáùåíèé: 22
aaron *
Õîíäðîïðîòåêòîðû

Èçâèíèòå, òî ïîäíèìàþ ñòàðóþ òåìó, íî âîçíèêëà ïàðà âîïðîñîâ:
1. Ýôôåêòèâíû ëè õîíäðîïðîòåêòîðû ïðè îòíîñèòåëüíî ïîçäíèõ ñòàäèÿõ ÎÀ (ñ ÍÔÑ...3-4)?
2. Âñå-òàêè õîíäðîïðîòåêòîðû ïî õàðàêòåðó äåéñòâèÿ - áèîñòèìóëÿòîðû, à ïîæèëûå ëþäè (êîòîðûå ÷àùå âñåãî ÎÀ è ñòðàæàþò) - â ãðóïïå ðèñêà ïî îíêîïàòîëîãèè, åñòü ëè äàííûå ïî ýòîé ïðîáëåìå?
3. Ñòîèò ëè ïðèìåíÿòü îòå÷åñòâåíûå õîíäðîïðîòåêòîðû, êîòîðûå àíàëîãè÷íû ïî ñîñòàâó ñ çàðóáåæíûìè, íî â îòëè÷èå îò ïîñëäåíèõ, íîðìàëüíûõ êëèíè÷åñêèõ èñïûòàíèé íå ïðîõîäèëè(EBM).
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #2  
Ñòàðûé 06.01.2007, 13:32
Rodionov Rodionov âíå ôîðóìà
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 28.02.2004
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 9,764
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 804 ðàç(à) çà 733 ñîîáùåíèé
Rodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
1) Íà ïîçäíèõ ñòàäèÿõ ÎÀ ñ âûðàæåííîé ôóíêöèîíàëüíîé íåäîñòàòî÷íîñòüþ ýôôåêòèâíîñòü õîíäðîïðîòåêòîðîâ âåñüìà íåâåëèêà, òóò íàäî îáñóæäàòü ýíäîïðîòåçèðîâàíèå.
2) Äàííûõ î òîì, ÷òî ÕÏ óâåëè÷èâàþò ðèñê çëîêà÷åñòâåííûõ íîâîîáðàçîâàíèé âðîäå áû íåò.
3) Î êàêèõ îòå÷åñòâåííûõ ÕÏ èäåò ðå÷ü? Êñòàòè, ÷òî Âû ïîíèìàåòå ïîä ÕÏ - òàáëåòî÷íûå ãëþêîçàìèí è õîíäðîèëèí èëè â/ñ ãèàëóðîíîâóþ ê-òó?

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
Mikhail îäîáðèë(à):
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 06.01.2007, 22:46
aaron aaron âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 14.12.2006
Ñîîáùåíèé: 22
aaron *
Ñïàñèáî çà áûñòðûé îòâåò.
ß èìåë â âèäó è òå è òå, è ïëþñ íåèçâåñòíûé ïî ñîñòàâó Àëôëóòîï...
Íàïðèìåð, ÷òî Âû äóìàåòå ïî ïðåïàðàòó Õîíäðîëîí? Îí â ïîðîøêàõ äëÿ èíúåêöèé - è ìíîãèå ïàöèåíòû ïðîñòî ìå÷òàþò îá óêîëàõ... À ñòðóêòóì è äîíà - òîëüêî â êàïñóëàõ
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #4  
Ñòàðûé 06.01.2007, 22:56
Rodionov Rodionov âíå ôîðóìà
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 28.02.2004
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 9,764
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 804 ðàç(à) çà 733 ñîîáùåíèé
Rodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåRodionov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íè÷åãî íå äóìàþ.. íè î ïåðâîì, íè î âòîðîì. Ïðîñòî íå çíàþ. Êòî ìå÷òàåò îá óêîëàõ - òîìó ãèàëóðîíàò â/ñ.
Êîìó ãèàëóðîíàò êîëîòü íåêóäà â âèäó îòñóòñòâèè ñóñòàâíîé ùåëè, ïóñòü ìå÷òàåò î ïðîòåçèðîâàíèè.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #5  
Ñòàðûé 06.01.2007, 23:31
doctor Asya doctor Asya âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 03.12.2006
Ãîðîä: ÑÏá
Ñîîáùåíèé: 30
doctor Asya ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådoctor Asya ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò aaron
Ñïàñèáî çà áûñòðûé îòâåò.
ß èìåë â âèäó è òå è òå, è ïëþñ íåèçâåñòíûé ïî ñîñòàâó Àëôëóòîï...
Íàïðèìåð, ÷òî Âû äóìàåòå ïî ïðåïàðàòó Õîíäðîëîí? Îí â ïîðîøêàõ äëÿ èíúåêöèé - è ìíîãèå ïàöèåíòû ïðîñòî ìå÷òàþò îá óêîëàõ... À ñòðóêòóì è äîíà - òîëüêî â êàïñóëàõ
[left]Ïðåïàðàò Äîíà âûïóñêàåòñÿ è â àìïóëàõ.  îäíîé àìïóëå 2 ìë ðàñòâîðà - 400 ìã. Ââîäÿò 3 ðàçà â íåäåëþ ïî îäíîé èíúåêöèè â òå÷åíèå 4 - 6 íåäåëü. Ýôôåêòèâíî ñî÷åòàòü èíúåêöèè ñ ïðèåìîì ïðåïàðàòà âíóòðü åæåäíåâíî 1 ñàøå îäèí ðàç â äåíü.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #6  
Ñòàðûé 18.01.2007, 22:28
dr.gala dr.gala âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2007
Ãîðîä: ã.Ìèðíûé
Ñîîáùåíèé: 12
dr.gala *
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò aaron
Ñïàñèáî çà áûñòðûé îòâåò.
ß èìåë â âèäó è òå è òå, è ïëþñ íåèçâåñòíûé ïî ñîñòàâó Àëôëóòîï...
Íàïðèìåð, ÷òî Âû äóìàåòå ïî ïðåïàðàòó Õîíäðîëîí? Îí â ïîðîøêàõ äëÿ èíúåêöèé - è ìíîãèå ïàöèåíòû ïðîñòî ìå÷òàþò îá óêîëàõ... À ñòðóêòóì è äîíà - òîëüêî â êàïñóëàõ
"Àëôëóòîï ïðåäñòàâëÿåò ñîáîé íàòóðàëüíûé îðèãèíàëüíûé ðóìûíñêèé ïðåïàðàò, àêòèâíûì ïðèíöèïîì êîòîðîãî ÿâëÿåòñÿ ñòàíäàðòèçèðîâàííûé, î÷èùåííûé (îáåçæèðåííûé è äåïðîòåèíèçèðîâàííûé) ýêñòðàêò èç 4 âèäîâ ìîðñêèõ ðûá.
Êîìïëåêñíûé õèìè÷åñêèé àíàëèç ïðåïàðàòà, âûïîëíåííûé ìåòîäàìè ýëåêòðîôîðåçà, ãàç-õðîìîòîãðàôèè è ñïåêòðîôîòîìåòðèè ïîçâîëèë âûÿâèòü ñëåäóþùèå âåùåñòâà, îáóñëàâëèâàþùèå ïðîòèâîãèàëóðîíèäàçíîå è õîíäðîïðîòåêòîðíîå äåéñòâèÿ ïðåïàðàòà Àëôëóòîï: ãëèêîçàìèíîãëèêàíû (õîíäðîèòèí-6-ñóëüôàò) ñ ìîëåêóëÿðíîé ìàññîé îêîëî 40000ÄÀ, ïîëèïåïòèäû ñ ìîëåêóëÿðíîé ìàññîé íå ïðåâûøàþùåé 50000ÄÀ, ñâîáîäíûå àìèíîêèñëîòû, à òàêæå áûëè âûÿâëåíû ìèêðîýëåìåíòû-èîíû Na, K, Fe, Cu, Zn.Àëôëóòîï îáëàäàåò àíòèãèàëóðîíèäàçíîé, ïðîòèâîâîñïàëèòåëüíîé, ðåãåíåðàòèâíîé, òðîôè÷åñêîé è äåðìîðåãåíåðàòèâíîé àêòèâíîñòüþ."
Ïî ëè÷íûì íàáëþäåíèÿì. ýôôåêòèâåí íà 1-2 ñò ÎÀ, îñîáî â îòíîøåíèè áîëåâîãî ñèíäðîìà.Âûïóñêàåòñÿ â èíúåêöèîííîé ôîðìå, ñóùåñòâóþò ñõåìû ââåäåíèÿ, â çàâèñèìîñòè îò êëèíèêè: â ñëó÷àå îñòåîàðòðîçà ñ âîâëå÷åíèåì ìíîæåñòâà ñóñòàâîâ ðåêîìåíäóåòñÿ â/ì ââåäåíèå: îäíà àìïóëà (1,0ìë) åæåäíåâíî íà ïðîòÿæåíèè 20äíåé. Êóðñ ïîâòîðÿþò ÷åðåç 3 ìåñÿöà èëè ïî íàçíà÷åíèþ âðà÷à;â ñëó÷àå âîâëå÷åíèÿ â ïðîöåññ êðóïíûõ ñóñòàâîâ ðåêîìåíäóåòñÿ â/ñ ââåäåíèå, ïðîäîëæåííîå â/ì, ïî ñëåäóþùåé ñõåìå:
2 àìïóëû (2,0ìë) â/ñ â êàæäûé ïîðàæåííûé ñóñòàâ - ðàç â 3 äíÿ, â òå÷åíèè 18 äíåé (6 ââåäåíèé), ñ ïîñëåäóþùèì â/ì ââåäåíèåì ïî 1àìïóëå (1,0ìë) â äåíü íà ïðîòÿæåíèè 20äíåé.
Ïðè ÎÀ 3 ñò îæäàåìîãî ýôôåêòà íå äîñòèãëè .
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #7  
Ñòàðûé 18.01.2007, 22:36
BBC BBC âíå ôîðóìà
ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 15.08.2005
Ãîðîä: Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 31,518
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 4,832 ðàç(à) çà 3,086 ñîîáùåíèé
BBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBBC ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïðè ýòîì çàìåòèì, ÷òî ñèñòåìå PubMed (êíîïêà ñïðàâà â ñàìîì íèçó - ïîëå-å-åçíàÿ...) èçâåñòíî òîëüêî 3 ñòàòüè ïðî ALFLUTOP (2 èç Ðîññèè, 1 èç Óêðàèíû) è âñå îíè... íó ñêàæåì, íå âïå÷àòëÿþò.
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Ñ óâàæåíèåì,
Âàëåðèé Âàëåðüåâè÷ Ñàìîéëåíêî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #8  
Ñòàðûé 23.01.2007, 04:59
aaron aaron âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 14.12.2006
Ñîîáùåíèé: 22
aaron *
Ñïàèñèáî çà èíôîðìàöèþ êîëëåãè.
Åùå íà äíÿõ ïàöèåíòû ñïðàøèâàëè (ïî ìýéëó) - ìîæåò ñòîèò ïðèíèìàòü äîíó è ñòðóêòóì îäíîâðåìåííî (â ðîäå êàê õîíäðîèòèí è ãëþêîçàìèí âìåñòå ýôôåêòèâíåå).
×òî äóìàåòå ïî ýòîìó ïîâîäó?
Ëîãè÷íî îáðàòèòüñÿ ê Òåðàôëåêñó, íî ïî íåìó â îòëè÷èå îò Äîíû è Ñòðóêòóìà ìàëî èíôîðìàöèè
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #9  
Ñòàðûé 23.01.2007, 17:15
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.
Dr. Dr. âíå ôîðóìà
Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 29.07.2004
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 10,123
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 446 ðàç(à) çà 427 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
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PS: Òåìà î âûòÿæêàõ-õîíäðîïðîòåêòîðàõ óæå íå ðàç îáñóæäàëàñü. Ðåçþìå äîëæíî çâó÷àòü â òîì òîíå, ÷òî ýòè òîâàðû ÿâëÿþòñÿ ëåêàðñòâàìè ïî ôîðìå (êîå-ãäå åùå ïîðîé ), íî ÁÀÄàìè ïî ñîäåðæàíèþ.
×òî Âû ïîíèìàåòå ïîä "âûòÿæêàõ-õîíäðîïðîòåêòîðàõ"? Êàêèå ïðåïàðàòû?
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Ñòàðûé 11.02.2007, 22:00
dr.gala dr.gala âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
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Âíèìàòåëüíî ÷èòàëà äèñêóññèþ...Âîò òàê äîëãî, íåêðàñèâî è ìó÷èòåëüíî ðîæäàåòñÿ èñòèíà !
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Ñòàðûé 17.02.2007, 19:26
Mystical Mystical âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
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Mystical *
æàëêî íå âëàäåþ ëàòèíñêèì , íàâåðíî ìíîãî óïóñòèë
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 01.04.2007, 23:01
ßíèíà ßíèíà âíå ôîðóìà
Ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
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ßíèíà ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò õîðîøóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Çíà÷èò, Ìàëûøåâà - òàêè áûëà ïðàâà ïðî õîíäðîïðîòåêòîðû â ïåðåäà÷å "Çäîðîâüå", çðÿ ÿ, âûõîäèò, 3 òûñÿ÷è çàïëàòèëà . Îáèäíî. Áîëüíîìó ÷åëîâåêó åñòü êóäà äåíüãè òðàòèòü ïîìèìî ÁÀÄîâ.
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  #13  
Ñòàðûé 02.04.2007, 07:00
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.
Dr. Dr. âíå ôîðóìà
Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 446 ðàç(à) çà 427 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
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Çíà÷èò, Ìàëûøåâà - òàêè áûëà ïðàâà ïðî õîíäðîïðîòåêòîðû â ïåðåäà÷å "Çäîðîâüå", çðÿ ÿ, âûõîäèò, 3 òûñÿ÷è çàïëàòèëà . Îáèäíî. Áîëüíîìó ÷åëîâåêó åñòü êóäà äåíüãè òðàòèòü ïîìèìî ÁÀÄîâ.
Íå çíàþ, ÷òî òàì ñêàçàëà Ìàëûøåâà, íî âû âñå òî÷íî õîðîøî ïðî÷èòàëè?
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Ñòàðûé 02.04.2007, 09:13
ßíèíà ßíèíà âíå ôîðóìà
Ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
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ßíèíà ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò õîðîøóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Dr.
Íå çíàþ, ÷òî òàì ñêàçàëà Ìàëûøåâà, íî âû âñå òî÷íî õîðîøî ïðî÷èòàëè?
Äà, ÿ î÷åíü âíèìàòåëüíî ïðî÷ëà. Òî, ÷òî áûëî íå ïîíÿòíî - ïåðå÷èòûâàëà. Èíîñòðàííûõ ÿçûêîâ, ïðàâäà, íå çíàþ, íî è ïî-ðóññêè äîñòàòî÷íî íàïèñàíî, ÷òî áû ïîíÿòü, ÷òî õðÿù íå îáðàçóåòñÿ - ïåé, íå ïåé.
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Ñòàðûé 02.04.2007, 08:34
Àâàòàð äëÿ Hard
Hard Hard âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Êàíäèäàò â âåòåðàíû ôîðóìà
      
 
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Hard ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåHard ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåHard ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåHard ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåHard ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåHard ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåHard ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåHard ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåHard ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåHard ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåHard ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Exclamation Âîçâðàùàÿñü ê ãàéäëàéíàì: AAOS clinical guideline on osteoarthritis of the kneå

Âîïðîñ î âîçìîæíîñòè èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ ãëþêîçàìèíîâ è õîíäðîèòèíñóëüôàòîâ ðàññìàòðèâàëñÿ ïðè ðàçðàáîòêå äàííûõ êëèíè÷åñêèõ ðåêîìåíäàöèé, îäíàêî, íå áûëî íàéäåíî îñíîâàíèé äëÿ èõ âêëþ÷åíèÿ â ñïèñîê ëå÷åáíûõ ìåðîïðèÿòèé (ñì. ðàçäåë "Ëå÷åíèå" ïóíêò 12).


DISEASE/CONDITION(S)

Osteoarthritis of the knee


GUIDELINE CATEGORY

Diagnosis
Evaluation
Management
Treatment


CLINICAL SPECIALTY

Family Practice
Internal Medicine
Orthopedic Surgery
Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation
Rheumatology


INTENDED USERS

Physicians


GUIDELINE OBJECTIVE(S)

To guide qualified physicians through a series of diagnostic and treatment decisions in an effort to improve the quality and efficiency of care in patients with osteoarthritis of the knee


TARGET POPULATION


  • Adults (skeletally mature individuals) with confirmed osteoarthritis of the knee
Note: The guideline does not address the treatment of children or the skeletally immature.


INTERVENTIONS AND PRACTICES CONSIDERED

Diagnosis

Differential diagnosis of osteoarthritis of the knee based on patient history and physical findings

Treatment/Management
  1. Analgesics (e.g., acetaminophen) or nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medication (NSAIDs), including cyclooxygenase-II (COX-II) inhibitors
  2. Activity modification
  3. Ongoing monitoring of complete blood count, renal and liver function tests, and stool guaiac
  4. Ongoing assessment of response to treatment, with medication change as needed
  5. Radiography, including standing anteroposterior (AP) view, lateral view, tangential view of the patella-femoral joint ("sunrise" view), and standing posteroanterior (PA) view
  6. Patient education (counseling about weight loss, avoidance of aggravating activities, and support groups)
  7. Use of durable medical equipment (e.g., assistive devices, modified footwear, bracing)
  8. Physical therapy including general conditioning, muscle strengthening, and range of motion
  9. Aspiration of synovial fluid to assess for infection
  10. Arthrocentesis with intraarticular steroid injection
  11. Viscosupplementation
  12. Glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate treatment (considered but no recommendation given)
  13. Referral to musculoskeletal specialist
MAJOR OUTCOMES CONSIDERED
  • Patient satisfaction with treatment and progress
  • Symptomatic relief (control of pain)
  • Range of motion
  • Physical functioning
  • Complications associated with treatment
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