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Äîáðûé äåíü! Æåíùèíà 31. 173/59
Çàáîëåâàíèÿ ÆÊÒ: íåò ñâåäåíèé
Ñóáúåêòèâíàÿ îöåíêà: íå áåñïîêîèò ýòè îðãàíû

Ñèòóàöèÿ: íà ïðîòÿæåíèè ìåñÿöà ëå÷óñü îò ñòðåïòîêîêêîâîé àíãèíû(ïîäòâåðæäåíà ñìûâîì è ïîñåâîì). Ðåáåíîê áîëåë ïîäòâåðæäåííîé ñêàðëàòèíîé è ÿ çàáîëåëà ñëåäîì.

Èçíà÷àëüíî ïèëà àíòèáèîòèê 5 äíåé, àìîêñèöèëèí. ×åðåç òðè äíÿ ïîñëå ïðèåìà, âñå âåðíóëîñü è ìàçêè ïîêàçàëè ñòðåïòîêîê ñíîâà.

Íàçíà÷èëè àçèìèòðîöèí 5äíåé.  ïîñëåäíèé äåíü ïðèåìà ÷åðåç ÷àñ ïîñëå åäû ñëó÷èëèñü ñïàçìû èëè àáäîìèíàëüíûå áîëè. 3 èç 10 ïî øêàëå áîëè. Ïðîøëè è áîëüøå íå áåñïîêîèëè.

Ïîñëå ïðèåìà àíòèáèîòèêîâ íà 3 äíåé ñíîâà ñòðåïòîêîê âåðíóëñÿ, íî òåïåðü óæå áîëÿìè â íîãàõ ñèëüíûìè, ñ íåâîçìîæíîñòüþ ëåæàòü 6/10.

Âûïèñàëè 10 äíåâíûé êóðñ öåôàëåêñèíà, è 6 äíåâíûé êóðñ ñòåðîèäîâ. Ñåé÷àñ 8 äåíü ïðèåìà àíòèáèîòèêîâ è ÿ ÷óâñòâóþ 3/10 áîëü â æåëóäêå ïîñëå åäû è ïðèåìà àíòèáèîòèêà.

Ñêàæèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, ìîæåò ëè àíòèáèîòèê è ñòåðîèäû âëèÿòü íà ñëèçèñòóþ? Êàê îáëåã÷èòü áîëè?

Íà ýíäîñêîïèþ çàïèñàëàñü ÷åðåç ìåñÿö, ÷òîá âîññòàíîâèòñÿ íåìíîãî. Î÷åíü ïåðåæèâàþ ÷òî áîëè ñâèäåòåëüñòâóþò î ÷åì òî î÷åíü ñåðüåçíîì.

Êàê ñïðàâèòñÿ ñî ñòðåïòîêîêêîì è ïî÷åìó îí âîçâðàùàåòñÿ, åñëè ýòî òàêàÿ áàíàëüíàÿ ïåíèöèëëèíî-óáèâàåìàÿ áàêòåðèÿ?

Ñïàñèáî!
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Ñòàðûé 25.08.2023, 21:04
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Dr.Vad Dr.Vad íà ôîðóìå
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,409
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Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
äåëàëè ëè âàì ïîñåâ íà ÷óâñòâèòåëüíîñòü ê àíòèáèîòèêàì? â ñëó÷àå ðåçèñòåíòíîñòè ê ïåíèöèëëèíó/àìîêñèöèëëèíó, èñïîëüçóþò èíûå ðåæèìû ýðàäèêàöèè ÃÀÑ íîñèòåëüñòâà è òóäûñü íè öåôàëåêñèí, íè êóðñ ñòåðîèäîâ íå îòíîñÿòñÿ. ëó÷øå âñåãî îáðàòèòüñÿ ê áîëåå ãðàìîòíîìó î÷íîìó âðà÷ó, ïî èíòåðíåòó ïîìîùü òàê ñåáå

íèæå ïðîôåññèîíàëüíàÿ èíôà äëÿ âàñ:

Repeated positive tests for GAS pharyngitis may represent chronic pharyngeal carriage of GAS in the setting of viral pharyngitis or pharyngitis from another cause. Antibiotic therapy to eradicate GAS pharyngeal carriage is not routinely indicated since carriers are at low, if any, risk of developing complications and carriers are unlikely to transmit infection. Eradication of GAS pharyngeal carriage may be indicated in the following special circumstances: (4) multiple episodes of GAS pharyngitis within a household for several weeks despite appropriate antibiotic therapy. Penicillin or amoxicillin may not be as effective in eradicating GAS pharyngeal carriage as other antibiotic agents. Reacquisition can occur after eradication is achieved and pharyngeal carriage can persist for months to years.
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Ñòàðûé 25.08.2023, 22:01
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×óâñòâèòåëüíîñòü íå ïðîâåðÿëàñü: Heavy growth of Group A Streptococcus isolated Beta-hemolytic streptococci are predictably susceptible to Penicillin and other beta-lactams. Susceptibility testing is not routinely performed.

Àíòèáèîòèê îáüåêòèâíî ïîìîãàåò êóïèðîâàòü ïðèçíàêè àíãèíû âñå 3 âèäà î÷åíü õîðîøî ðàáîòàëè âî âðåìÿ ïðèìåíåíèÿ, ñòåðîèäû áûëè íàçíà÷åíû îò áîëåé â íîãàõ è óæàñíîãî ñîñòîÿíèÿ ìèíäàëèí

Íîãè ïåðåñòàëè áîëåòü ñïóñòÿ 4 ÷àñîâ ïîñëå ïðèåìà àíòèáèîòèêà è ñòåðîèäà

ß îáðàòèëàñü ê 3 âðà÷àì î÷íûì (1 ENT, 2 General Practitioners) è 1 çàî÷íîìó (Òåðàïåâòó) - íî íå ìîãó âûëå÷èòüñÿ
Àíòèáèîòèê 3òèé íàçíà÷èëè âñå
Ïðàâäà ENT íàçíà÷èë íå ê ñåëó íå ê ãîðîäó ÁÀÊÒÐÈÌ - GP ïåðåíàçíà÷èëà öåôàëåêñèí

ß óæå íå çíàþ êóäà îáðàùàòüñÿ åùå
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 25.08.2023, 22:06
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Ò å - êàæäûé ðàç êîãäà íîâûé àíòèáèîòèê íàçíà÷àëè ó ìåíÿ èìåëèñü íå òîëüêî ñìûâû ñ ãîðëà ïîëîæèòåëüíûå - íî è àíãèíà ñ òåìïåðàòóðîé è óâåëè÷åíèåì ìèíäàëèí- íåâîçìîæíîñòüþ ãëîòàòü

3 ðàç ó ìåíÿ áûëè áîëè â íîãàõ ñèëüíûå è òåìïåðàòóðà
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 25.08.2023, 22:08
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad íà ôîðóìå
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,409
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,243 ðàç(à) çà 31,592 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
äà, äàííûé âèä âîçáóäèòåëÿ ÷óâñòâèòåëåí, íî åñëè âû åãî ìåñÿö ëå÷èòå è îí âñå âðåìÿ ïîâòîðíî âûñåâàåòñÿ, çíà÷èò åòî õð. íîñèòåëüñòâî

Bacteriologic failure rates for penicillin-treated GABHS pharyngitis increased from about 10 percent in the 1970s to more than 30 percent in the past decade.

Antibiotic treatment may be appropriate in the following persons or situations: recurrent GABHS infection within a family; personal history of or close contact with someone who has had acute rheumatic fever or acute poststreptococcal glomerulonephritis; close contact with someone who has GAS infection; community outbreak of acute rheumatic fever, poststreptococcal glomerulonephritis, or invasive GAS infection; health care workers or patients in hospitals, chronic care facilities, or nursing homes; families who cannot be reassured; and children at risk of tonsillectomy for repeated GABHS pharyngitis.39 Small RCTs suggest that intramuscular benzathine penicillin combined with four days of oral rifampin (Rifadin) or a 10-day course of oral clindamycin effectively eradicates the carrier state.39 Oral clindamycin, azithromycin, and cephalosporins are also effective.

ñòåðîèäû åñëè è äàþòñÿ ïðî âîñïàë¸ííîì ãîðëå òî îäíîêðàòíî â ìàëîé äîçå

[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
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Èñêðåííå,
Âàäèì Âàëåðüåâè÷.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 25.08.2023, 22:15
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Ñïàñèáî - ïðîêîíñóëüòèðóþñü åùå ïî òîìó ÷òî âû íàïèñàëè

À æåëóäîê ìîæåò áîëåòü èç-çà 3 òüåãî ïðèåìà àíòèáèîòèêîâ? Ìíå âðà÷ ñêàçàë ÷òî åñëè áóäåò î÷åíü ïëîõî ïî æèâîòó, òî ìîæíî áóäåò IV antibiotics ñäåëàòü
ß ìîãó òåðïåòü è íå ïîíèìàþ ÷òî çíà÷èò ïëîõî - ýòî êîãäà î÷åíü áîëüíî èëè áîëü â 3/10 äîëæíà ñïîäâèãíóòü ìåíÿ ïîéòè â ýìåðäæåíñè çà IV?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 25.08.2023, 22:27
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad íà ôîðóìå
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,409
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,243 ðàç(à) çà 31,592 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
ìîæåò áûòü ïðÿìîå ðàçäðàæåíèå ñëèçèñòîé æåëóäêà òàáëåòêàìè, èëè óãíåòåíèå åñòåñòâåííîé ôëîðû â æêò; ëó÷øå âñåãî îáãîâîðèòü âñå ñ ëå÷. âðà÷îì, âðÿä ëè êòî-òî âàì ïî ñêîðîé ââåäåò àíòèáèîòèê â/â òîëüêî ïîòîìó, ÷òî ó âàñ áîëè
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Ñòàðûé 26.08.2023, 10:00
Àâàòàð äëÿ Korzun
Korzun Korzun âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
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Ãîðîä: Ãåðìàíèÿ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 24,430
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 1
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 10,437 ðàç(à) çà 9,607 ñîîáùåíèé
Korzun ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKorzun ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKorzun ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKorzun ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKorzun ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKorzun ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKorzun ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKorzun ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKorzun ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKorzun ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKorzun ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íîñèòåëüñòâî è ðåöèäèâû â òàêèõ ñëó÷àÿõ ïðîôèëàêòèðóþò èíúåêöèåé áåíçàòèíáåíçèëïåíèöèëëèíà â êîíöå êóðñà ëþáîãî àíòèáèîòèêà.
Îò ñàìîãî ðåöèäèâà àíòèáèîòèêè âûáîðà: öåôäèíèð, èëè öåôïîäîêñèì, èëè àìîêñèöèëëèí/êëàâóëàíàò, èëè êëèíäàìèöèí. Êóðñ íå ìåíåå 10 äíåé.
Ñëåäóþùèé øàã, åñëè ðåöèäèâîâ 6 çà ãîä èëè 4 çà 2 ãîäà è áîëüøå - òîíçèëëýêòîìèÿ.
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