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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
  #511  
Ñòàðûé 18.04.2012, 18:33
Àâàòàð äëÿ Gilarov
Gilarov Gilarov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
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Gilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ò. å. Àñïèðèí íå òàê óæ è áåçîïàñåí
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #512  
Ñòàðûé 18.04.2012, 18:48
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,358
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,212 ðàç(à) çà 31,562 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
èìåííî òàê è ïîä÷åðêèâàþò àâòîðû â äèñêóññèîííîé ÷àñòè - àñïèðèí íå òàê óæ è áåçîïàñåí, êàê áûòóåò îáùåïðèíÿòîå ïîâåðüå, íî ñåðüåçíî ïðîèãðûâàåò â ýôôåêòèâíîñòè âàðôàðèíó
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Èñêðåííå,
Âàäèì Âàëåðüåâè÷.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #513  
Ñòàðûé 18.04.2012, 19:13
carel carel âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 05.12.2008
Ãîðîä: ÑÏÁ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 54
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 2
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 3 ðàç(à) çà 2 ñîîáùåíèé
carel ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò õîðîøóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïðîñòèòå, íàñêîëüêî êà÷åñòâåííûé ýòîò ìåòààíàëèç? Ïîïûòêè ñâàëèòü êó÷ó âåñüìà ðàçíûõ ïî ïîïóëÿöèÿì è ìåòîäàì èññëåäîâàíèé â îäèí êîòåë è ïûòàòüñÿ ÷òî-òî òàì ñâàðèòü, ÷àñòî çàêàí÷èâàþòñÿ áóðäîé. Ñåãîäíÿ óæå öåëàÿ èíäóñòðèÿ îáðàçîâàëàñü ïî ìåòà àíàëèçó âñåãî.  îäíîì òðàéëå ìîæíî íàéòè ìíîãî ñåðüåçíûõ íåäîñòàòêîâ, ñòàâÿùèõ ïîä ñîìíåíèå ðåçóëüòàòû, à òóò äåëàþò òàêèå îáîáùåíèÿ. Ëó÷øèì îòâåòîì òàêèì àíàëèçàòîðàì ñëóæèò ñèñòåìà ôàðìàêîíàäçîðà. Äî íåäàâíåãî âðåìåíè âàðôàðèí áûë íà ïåðâîì ìåñòå ïî êîëè÷åñòâó ðåïîðòèðîâàíèé AERs. Àñïèðèí äàëåêî ïîçàäè.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #514  
Ñòàðûé 18.04.2012, 19:33
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,358
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,212 ðàç(à) çà 31,562 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íàñòîëüêî êà÷åñòâåííûé, íàñêîëüêî áûëè âêëþ÷åíû òîëüêî òå èññëåäîâàíèÿ, ãäå áûëè âíÿòíûå äèçàéí, ðàíäîìèçàöèÿ è îáîçíà÷åíû èíòåðåñóþùèå êîíå÷íûå òî÷êè. Åñòåñòâåííî, âñÿêèå àíàëèçû èìåþò ñâîè ëèìèòû, î ÷åì òîæå ãîâîðÿò àâòîðû. Òî, ÷òî óïîìèíàåòå Âû, ÿâëÿåòñÿ ñèñòåìîé äëÿ ðåãèñòðàöèè ïîá. äåéñòâèÿ â ðåàëüíîé êëèí. ïðàêòèêå. Ñðàâíèâàòü ÷èñëî çàÿâëåííûõ ïîáî÷íûõ ÿâëåíèé, íàïðèìåð êðîâîòå÷åíèé, íà òîì èëè èíîì ïðåïàðàòå â äàííîì êîíòåêñòå óæ òî÷íî íåâîçìîæíî, èáî ðàçíîå êîëè÷åñòâî ïàöèåíòîâ íà òîì èëè èíîì ïðåïàðàòå è òåì áîëåå ðàçíÿùèåñÿ êëèíè÷åñêèå ñöåíàðèè ó êàæäîãî.
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Èñêðåííå,
Âàäèì Âàëåðüåâè÷.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #515  
Ñòàðûé 18.04.2012, 19:44
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,358
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,212 ðàç(à) çà 31,562 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
ïî ïîâîäó "êà÷åñòâà" àâòîðîâ: ïðåäûäóùèé ìåòà-àíàëèç îò ýòèõ æå àâòîðîâ (Crowther M - ýêñïåðò, ó÷àñòâóþùèé â íàïèñàíèè ãàéäà îò ACCP ïî àíòèòðîìáîòè÷åñêîé òåðàïèè)

Arch Intern Med. 2007 Jan 22;167(2):117-24.
Combined aspirin-oral anticoagulant therapy compared with oral anticoagulant therapy alone among patients at risk for cardiovascular disease: a meta-analysis of randomized trials.
Dentali F, Douketis JD, Lim W, Crowther M.
Department of Medicine, McMaster University, and St Joseph's Healthcare, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.

BACKGROUND: For patients receiving oral anticoagulant (OAC) therapy, deciding whether to add aspirin to their treatment is a common clinical scenario with no clear guidelines to aid practice. We performed a systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials comparing these 2 treatment strategies (combined aspirin-OAC therapy vs OAC therapy alone) to assess the therapeutic benefits and risks.

DATA SOURCES: Randomized controlled trials published up to June 2005 in MEDLINE, EMBASE, and Cochrane Library databases.

STUDY SELECTION: Randomized controlled trials with at least 3 months of follow-up that compared aspirin-OAC therapy with OAC therapy alone, in which OAC was administered to achieve the same target international normalized ratio or was given at the same fixed dose in both treatment arms.

DATA EXTRACTION: Two reviewers independently extracted data on study characteristics and outcomes. Pooled odds ratios (ORs) and associated 95% confidence intervals (CIs) were calculated for study outcomes in patients receiving aspirin-OAC therapy and OAC therapy alone.

DATA SYNTHESIS: Ten studies were included, totaling 4180 patients. The risk for arterial thromboembolism was lower in patients receiving combined aspirin-OAC therapy compared with OAC therapy alone (OR, 0.66; 95% CI, 0.52-0.84). However, these benefits were limited to patients with a mechanical heart valve (OR, 0.27; 95% CI, 0.15-0.49). There was no difference in the risk for arterial thromboembolism with these treatments in patients with atrial fibrillation (OR, 0.99; 95% CI, 0.47-2.07) or coronary artery disease (OR, 0.69; 95% CI, 0.35-1.36). There was no difference in all-cause mortality with either treatment (OR, 0.98; 95% CI, 0.77-1.25). The risk for major bleeding was higher in patients receiving aspirin-OAC therapy compared with OAC therapy alone (OR, 1.43; 95% CI, 1.00-2.02).

CONCLUSION: Our findings question the current practice of using combined aspirin-OAC therapy except in patients with a mechanical heart valve, given the questionable benefits in reducing thromboembolic events and the increased risk of major bleeding.
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Èñêðåííå,
Âàäèì Âàëåðüåâè÷.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #516  
Ñòàðûé 19.04.2012, 23:00
carel carel âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 05.12.2008
Ãîðîä: ÑÏÁ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 54
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 2
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 3 ðàç(à) çà 2 ñîîáùåíèé
carel ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò õîðîøóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íàëè÷èå âíÿòíîãî äèçàéíà íå ãàðàíòèðóåò, ÷òî èññëåäîâàíèÿ ñîïîñòàâèìû. Òàê æå êàê ãðîìêîå èìÿ, è òâ¸ðäûå êîíå÷íûå òî÷êè. Ìîæíî âñïîìíèòü èññëåäîâàíèÿ àíòèäåïðåññàíòîâ, ãäå áûëè ìíîãî÷èñëåííûå ñêàíäàëû è îòçûâû ñòàòåé ñàìûõ êðóòûõ àâòîðîâ èç âåäóùèõ æóðíàëîâ.  êàðäèîëîãèè òîæå ìîæíî íàéòè ïðèìåðû.  òåõ æå íïâñ. Èññëåäîâàíèÿ ìîãóò áûòü ðàíäîìèçèðîâàííûå, íî íå âñå ìîãóò áûòü ñëåïûìè. Ïîïóëÿöèè ìîãóò îòëè÷àòüñÿ î÷åíü ñèëüíî. ß íåäàâíî ïðîñìàòðèâàë ìåòà àíàëèç íîâûõ ÎÀÊ, òèïè÷íûé ïðèìåð ñóððîãàòà. Òî, ÷òî â àíàëèç âêëþ÷àþòñÿ òîëüêî ÷àñòü èññëåäîâàíèé, ìîæåò ïðèâåñòè ê ñèñòåìàòè÷åñêîé îøèáêå, â òîì ÷èñëå è óìûøëåííîãî ìàíèïóëèðîâàíèÿ. Äîñòàòî÷íî âêëþ÷èòü èëè èñêëþ÷èòü îäíî èññëåäîâàíèå, è âûâîäû ìåòà-àíàëèçà ìîæíî ïîâåðíóòü íà 180 ãðàäóñîâ. Èìåííî ñèñòåìà ôàðìàêîíàäçîðà äàåò ðåàëüíóþ êàðòèíó áåçîïàñíîñòè. È îòçûâàþò ëåêàðñòâà èìåííî ïî ðåçóëüòàòàì ìîíèòîðèíãà, à íå ñòàòèñòè÷åñêèõ òðþêîâ, êîèõ ìîæíî íàéòè âî ìíîãèõ èññëåäîâàíèÿõ ïðè íàëè÷èè ñïåöèàëüíûõ çíàíèé, äîñòóïà ê ñûðûì äàííûì è óéìû âðåìåíè.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #517  
Ñòàðûé 19.04.2012, 23:29
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,358
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,212 ðàç(à) çà 31,562 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
ñ óäîâîëüñòâèåì îçíàêîìëþñü ñ ðåçóëüòàòàìè Âàøèõ êðèòè÷åñêèõ çàìå÷àíèé, êîãäà îíè áóäóò ïðèíÿòû â ïå÷àòü â íîðìàëüíûé ðåöåíçèðóåìûé æóðíàë, ïîêà æå Âàøå çàìå÷àíèå "ß íåäàâíî ïðîñìàòðèâàë ìåòà àíàëèç íîâûõ ÎÀÊ, òèïè÷íûé ïðèìåð ñóððîãàòà" âûãëÿäèò âåñüìà ãîëîñëîâíî, ñ óäîâîëüñòâèåì âûñëóøàþ êîíêðåòíûå çàìå÷àíèÿ ïî êîíêðåòíîé ïóáëèêàöèè, êîãäà Âû îçíàêîìèòåñü ñ íåé â ïîëíîé âåðñèè è íàïèøåòå, êàêèå ÈÌÅÍÍÎ ñëàáûå ñòîðîíû Âû â íåé íàøëè... ïîêà æå Âàøå óòâåðæäåíèå "âàðôàðèí áûë íà ïåðâîì ìåñòå ïî êîëè÷åñòâó AERs...Àñïèðèí äàëåêî ïîçàäè", ïîýòîìó äàííûé ìåòà-àíàëèç âûïîëíåí íåêîððåêòíî, îòêðîâåííî ãîâîðÿ íå âïå÷àòëÿþò.

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disdas disdas âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 127 ðàç(à) çà 123 ñîîáùåíèé
disdas ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådisdas ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådisdas ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådisdas ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådisdas ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
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ACE Inhibitors Better ARBs in New Meta-Analysis in Hypertensives
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
A new meta-analysis has shown that use of ACE inhibitors is associated with a 10% reduction in all-cause mortality over four years in hypertensive patients, compared with contemporary therapy that included blood-pressure lowering with drugs other than ACE inhibitors or angiotensin-receptor blockers (ARBs) [1]. In contrast, ARBs had a neutral effect on deaths...
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Ñòàðûé 05.05.2012, 11:52
BMB BMB âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
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BMB ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBMB ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBMB ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåBMB ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
ESC CVD Prevention in clinical practice:
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
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Ñòàðûé 18.05.2012, 19:40
Àâàòàð äëÿ Chevychelov
Chevychelov Chevychelov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
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Chevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåChevychelov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
2012 PACES/HRS Expert Consensus Statement on the Management of the Asymptomatic Young Patient with a Wolff-Parkinson-White (WPW, Ventricular Preexcitation) Electrocardiographic Pattern
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
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Ñòàðûé 18.05.2012, 21:26
Samitin Samitin âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
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Samitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïðîøó ïðîùåíèÿ çà òî, ÷òî íå ñîâñåì ïî òåìå, íî, âîçìîæíî, áóäåò èíòåðåñíî (õîòÿ êàðäèîëîãè, êîíå÷íî, è òàê âñå çíàþò ): ñòàòüÿ èç NEJM ïî èñòîðèè èçó÷åíèÿ è ëå÷åíèÿ ÈÁÑ - [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ].
Ïîðàäîâàëñÿ òîìó, ÷òî óïîìÿíóòà ðàáîòà Îáðàçöîâà è Ñòðàæåñêî.

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Ñòàðûé 18.05.2012, 21:41
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,358
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Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
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Ïîðàäîâàëñÿ òîìó, ÷òî óïîìÿíóòà ðàáîòà Îáðàçöîâà è Ñòðàæåñêî.
À êàê æå ìîãëè ïðîïóñòèòü äîñòèæåíèÿ ñîâåòñêèõ êàðäèîëîãîâ ïèîíåðîâ ïî òðîìáîëèçèñó?

22. Chazov EI, Mateeva LS, Mazaev AV, Sargin KE, Sadovskaia GV, Ruda MI. Intracoronary administration of fibrinolysin in acute myocardial infarct. Ter Arkh 1976; 48:8-19. (In Russian.)

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Àâàòàð äëÿ oldangio
oldangio oldangio âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
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Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Samitin Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Ïðîøó ïðîùåíèÿ çà òî, ÷òî íå ñîâñåì ïî òåìå, íî, âîçìîæíî, áóäåò èíòåðåñíî (õîòÿ êàðäèîëîãè, êîíå÷íî, è òàê âñå çíàþò ): ñòàòüÿ èç NEJM ïî èñòîðèè èçó÷åíèÿ è ëå÷åíèÿ ÈÁÑ - [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ].
Ïîðàäîâàëñÿ òîìó, ÷òî óïîìÿíóòà ðàáîòà Îáðàçöîâà è Ñòðàæåñêî.
Òàêæå ðàäóåò óïîìèíàíèå ðàáîòû Å.È.×àçîâà ñ êîëë. 1976 ãîäà ïî òðîìáîëèçèñó.

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Dr.Vad îäîáðèë(à): æàëü, ÷òî òîëüêî îäíà-åäèíñòâåííàÿ ïóáëèêàöèÿ èç ÑÑÑÐ âîøëà â èñòîðèþ êàê âàæíàÿ âåõà â ðàçâèòèè ìèðîâîé êàðäèîëîãèè
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 18.05.2012, 22:05
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,358
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,212 ðàç(à) çà 31,562 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ê ñëîâó ñêàçàòü, ðàáîòû ×àçîâà Å. ïî ïðîáëåìàì ôèáðèíîëèçà ïðè àòåðîñêëåðîçå/ÈÌ òàêæå ïóáëèêîâàëèñü è â çàðóáåæíûõ æóðíàëàõ â 60-õ:

ANTIHEPARIN AND ANTIFIBRINOLYTIC ACTIVITY OF BLOOD IN PATIENTS WITH ATHEROSCLEROSIS.
MYASNIKOV AL, CHAZOV EI.
Am Heart J. 1964 Jan;67:18-22
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(âûøåóêàçàííàÿ ïóáëèêàöèÿ áûëà íàïèñàíà íà ðóññêîì ñàìèì ×àçîâûì, à ñïóñòÿ 2 ãîäà ïåðåâåäåíà äëÿ àìåðèêàíñêîãî æóðíàëà è ïîõîæå äëÿ ïîëíîâåñíîñòè áûëà äîáàâëåíà ôàìèëèÿ øåôà íà ïåðâîå ìåñòî:
[Antiheparin and antifibrinolytic activity of the blood in atherosclerotic patients].
CHAZOV EI.
Ter Arkh. 1962 Oct;34:36-40. Russian.)


[Plasmin and streptokinase in the treatment of myocardial infarction]
[Article in German].
Chazov EI.
Z Gesamte Inn Med. 1965 Dec 1;20(23):727-30.

íî èìåííî ïóáëèêàöèÿ â ñîâåòñêîì Òåð.Àðõèâå çà 1976 ÿâëÿåòñÿ çíàêîâîé:

Treatment of coronary thrombosis with thrombolytic agents was first introduced in the 1950s. Clinical trials, primarily with streptokinase during the 1960s and 1970s, addressed the effects of thrombolysis on mortality rates after acute myocardial infarction, but were inconclusive and largely ignored. In 1976, Chazov et al. from the Soviet Union demonstrated that intracoronary streptokinase !!!ñîãëàñíî îðèãèíàëüíîìó íàçâàíèþ ïóáëèêàöèè ââîäèëñÿ ôèáðèíîëèçèí - ïëîõî-î÷èùåííàÿ ôðàêöèÿ ïëàçìèíà ñî ñëåäàìè àêòèâàòîðîâ ïëàçìèíîãåíà!!! could produce prompt recanalization of a totally occluded infarct-related artery. In 1980, DeWood et al. demonstrated that 87% of patients with classic Q-wave myocardial infarction had total occlusion from coronary thrombosis of the infarct-related artery when studied during the first 4 hours of their infarction and that 65% of these arteries were still occluded when patients were studied between 12 and 24 hours after infarction. These observations stimulated renewed interest in thrombolytic therapy for acute myocardial infarction...

Heart Lung. 1991 Sep;20(5 Pt 2):538-41.
Overview: rationale of thrombolysis in treating acute myocardial infarction.
Rapaport E.
Department of Medicine, University of California, School of Medicine, San Francisco.
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Íó è íàïîñëåäîê, êàê ïîñëå íå îäíîãî äåñÿòêà ëåò çàáâåíèÿ ïëàçìèí (ïðåæíåå íàçâàíèå äëÿ åãî ñëàáîî÷èùåííîé ôðàêöèè - ôèáðèíîëèçèí è èìåííî åãî ââîäèë ×àçîâ Å. èíòðàêîðîíàðíî äëÿ ëå÷åíèÿ ÈÌ â ïóáëèêàöèè 1976 ã.) âîçâðàùàåòñÿ êàê ñðåäñòâî äëÿ òðàíñêàòåòåðíîãî ëîêàëüíîãî âíóòðèñîñóäèñòîãî òðîìáîëèçèñà:

Marder VJ.
Historical perspective and future direction of thrombolysis research: the re-discovery of plasmin.
J Thromb Haemost. 2011 Jul;9 Suppl 1:364-73.

[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
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